INFO-VAX Tue, 28 Oct 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 582 Contents: Re: AS200 and DE500 Re: AS200 and DE500 Re: AS200 and DE500 Re: Bell Labs closes Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Re: Does anyone know what time it is? SYS$GETTIM Re: Enhancing DCL, was: Re: How do I add 2 letters to a long Re: Enhancing DCL, was: Re: How do I add 2 letters to a long Fortran, debugger and Alpha/VMS 7.3-2 Re: is google groups stuck Java for OpenVMS registration for download broken Re: OT: newsgroups.comcast.net Re: OT: newsgroups.comcast.net Re: OT: newsgroups.comcast.net Re: SYSMAN Problem Re: test: is google groups stuck Re: When was "Line editing" introduced? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:02:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Jordan Subject: Re: AS200 and DE500 Message-ID: On Oct 25, 12:02=A0pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > Steven M. Schweda wrote: > > From: David J Dachtera > > >> I acquired a DE500 ethernet card recently and was wondering if anyone > >> knows will it work in my AlphaStation 200? > > > =A0 =A0How long would it take to try it? > > > =A0 =A0There's more than one "-xx" in "DE500-xx". =A0As I recall, I use= d a -BA > > in my AlpSta 200 4/233 systems (back when I used my AlpSta 200 4/233 > > systems). =A0I'm too far away to check at the moment. =A0I'd expect the= SPD > > or some other official document to have an authoratative answer. =A0A > > search of comp.os.vms over the past decade might offer some hints, too. > > > =A0 =A0What's wrong with the built-in (slower) interface? =A0Not very m= any PCI > > slots to waste in there. > > The built in interface is 10/100, the same as the DE500. =A0Installing a > DE500 is pointless unless you need a second Ethernet interface or you > somehow fried the built in interface. No. The embedded interface in the AS200 is a 10Base-T only; not 10/100. I've used a DE500-BA successfully in my AS200, though it is out now in favor of a video card and a faster SCSI (KZPBA), which leaves no PCI slots free. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:27:43 -0700 From: Alan Frisbie Subject: Re: AS200 and DE500 Message-ID: David J Dachtera wrote: > I acquired a DE500 ethernet card recently and was wondering if anyone > knows will it work in my AlphaStation 200? Yes, but you may need to tell DECnet, TCP/IP, LAT, etc. that they should use EWB0 instead of EWA0. I used to use one in my AlphaStation 200 (now retired) and am now using it in my AlphaStation 500 with no problems. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:07:26 -0600 From: Keith Parris Subject: Re: AS200 and DE500 Message-ID: David J Dachtera wrote: > I acquired a DE500 ethernet card recently and was wondering if anyone > knows will it work in my AlphaStation 200? I used DE500s successfully in my AlphaStation 200s. I don't remember what flavor(s) of DE500 I may have used. A DE504 (the quad-port version) definitely did NOT work -- the firmware didn't know how to handle the PCI bridges that card used. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:44:20 -0500 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: Bell Labs closes Message-ID: <49066E74.89259A9D@spam.comcast.net> "Main, Kerry" wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David J Dachtera [mailto:djesys.no@spam.comcast.net] > > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:27 PM > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > > Subject: Re: Bell Labs closes > > [snip] > > Change for the sake of change rarely produces anything positive. > > > > Change where change is appropriate usually leads to a more desirable > > result than the status quo. > > > > Agreed - "planned" change is more desirable than "reactive" change. Planned or unplanned, the change has to make sense - not just be change for the sake of change. > However, as the recent financial crisis has shown, sometimes there > are things that happen that are totally out of your control. Well, be careful not to fall into the "victim" mentality there. When we invest in stocks, etc., we make the conscious choice to accept certain risks. In essence, we got what we bargained for - just perhaps more than we expected. I recently became aware of "The Wellington Letter" and plan to explore it seriously as a source of information. I believe that if I am better informed I can make better decisions than, say, Fidelity or whoever. D.J.D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:50:10 -0400 From: Paul Anderson Subject: Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Message-ID: In article , Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > I just setup a new queue against a "Xerox WCP 35". Or "Workcentre Pro > 35" as it's also called, at least I *guess* that it's the same > printer ! Yes, the "Xerox WCP 35" (PostScript product name) is the Xerox WorkCentre Pro 35 (marketing name), and is supported by DCPS V2.5 and later. What version of DCPS are you running? (DCPS V2.6 ECO 3 is current.) Your definitions of DCPS$queuename_PRODUCT_NAME and DCPS$SPOOL appear correct. Did you start the queue after defining the PRODUCT_NAME logical name? Do you get any OPCOM messages at the start of the queue or job? If the printer is somehow not recognized by DCPS, you'd get an OPCOM message saying so. Paul -- Paul Anderson OpenVMS Engineering Hewlett-Packard Company ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:11:58 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Message-ID: Paul Anderson wrote: > In article , > Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > >> I just setup a new queue against a "Xerox WCP 35". Or "Workcentre Pro >> 35" as it's also called, at least I *guess* that it's the same >> printer ! > > Yes, the "Xerox WCP 35" (PostScript product name) is the Xerox > WorkCentre Pro 35 (marketing name), and is supported by DCPS V2.5 and > later. What version of DCPS are you running? (DCPS V2.6 ECO 3 is > current.) "DCPS$VERSION" = "V2.6 ECO 3" > Your definitions of DCPS$queuename_PRODUCT_NAME and DCPS$SPOOL appear > correct. Did you start the queue after defining the PRODUCT_NAME > logical name? I think I did, several times. Or I at least made a stop/que and re-run the DCPS startup command file to make some changes to the queue. (And the changes *was* made to the queue...) > > Do you get any OPCOM messages at the start of the queue or job? Nothing in operator.log, at least. Everything on VMS looks fine. No retained entry or anything. It's just the error message on the printer that is printed. I got a scanned copy of the message and has put it up here: http://www.jescab.se/upload/ps-message.pdf Below are the queue setup commands tried. Both are currently commented out since we had to back out to the old printer using a printserver and the standard LPD symbiont... $! $! ON ERROR THEN CONTINUE $! IF .NOT. SETUP_MODE THEN @SYS$STARTUP:DCPS$EXECUTION_QUEUE - $! GODSMOT_TL - ! P1 $! "IP_LPD/10.32.141.224" - ! P2 $! DCPS_LIB - ! P3 $! "DATA_TYPE=ANSI" - ! P4 $! "/DEF=(form=DEF_CHAR_SW) /SEPARATE=(NOBURST,NOFLAG,NOTRAIL)" $! "" - ! P6 $! "" - ! P7 $! "" ! P8 $! $! $! ON ERROR THEN CONTINUE $! IF .NOT. SETUP_MODE THEN @SYS$STARTUP:DCPS$EXECUTION_QUEUE - $! GODSMOT_TL - ! P1 $! "IP_LPD/10.32.141.224" - ! P2 $! DCPS_LIB - ! P3 $! "DATA_TYPE=PCL" - ! P4 $! "/DEF=(form=SET_ISO11) /SEPARATE=(NOBURST,NOFLAG,NOTRAIL)" $! "" - ! P6 $! "" - ! P7 $! "" ! P8 $! I've tried both ANSI and PCL (both are used on others Xerox printers and works). DEF_CHAR_SW is a module with an ANSI charset sequence. SET_ISO11 is a module with a PCL charset command (not realy needed since in that case it's included in the print-stream from the application). Many thanks for your time ! Jan-Erik. > If the > printer is somehow not recognized by DCPS, you'd get an OPCOM message > saying so. > > Paul > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:33:11 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Message-ID: <49063573$0$3387$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > > ERROR: rangecheck > > OFFENDING COMMAND: setpagedevice > > STACK: --dict--, setpagedevice is one of the commands that accept a dictionary (think of a dictionary as an array of variables) where each variable is printer specific (although there are common ones). So that error would indicate that one of the variables in the dictionary would have a value invalid for that printer (rangecheck). For instance, if that printer is only able to have 8*10 paper and you are asking it to rasterize on 11*17). The following info came from Paul Anderson some time ago: -------------------------- A DCPS "diag" file helps diagnose the communication between the OpenVMS system and the printer. To create a DCPS diag file, define this logical name: $ DEFINE /EXECUTIVE_MODE /SYSTEM DCPS$TEST 1 and then stop and start the DCPS queue(s). Print with the following command: $ PRINT /NOTIFY /PARAMETERS=(your_parameters,DIAG=FILE=BOTH) file Diag files contain all data sent between the host and the printer in files called: SYS$LOGIN:DCPS$JOB_entry_DIAG_FROM.LOG SYS$LOGIN:DCPS$JOB_entry_DIAG_TO.LOG Diag files contain all print data information, so be cautious if the files being printed contain confidential information. -------------------------------- So print something simple that generates the error message. Then look at the log files (won't be pretty because the VMS engineers purposefully stripped comments and formatting of the postscript code to make it ugly to spite *me* :-) and you may get an idea of the parameters being passed to setpagedevice and then check against the printer manual to see which one would cause the rangecheck. Since the job aborts at the setpagedevice command, this should be towards the end of the job (but DCPS is likely to send a "reset" group of commands at the end of the job). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:54:22 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote: > Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > >> > ERROR: rangecheck >> > OFFENDING COMMAND: setpagedevice >> > STACK: --dict--, > > > setpagedevice is one of the commands that accept a dictionary (think of > a dictionary as an array of variables) where each variable is printer > specific (although there are common ones). > > So that error would indicate that one of the variables in the dictionary > would have a value invalid for that printer (rangecheck). For instance, > if that printer is only able to have 8*10 paper and you are asking it to > rasterize on 11*17). > All printing over here is in A4. $ sh log dcps$sheet_size "DCPS$SHEET_SIZE" = "A4" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > > The following info came from Paul Anderson some time ago: > -------------------------- > A DCPS "diag" file helps diagnose the communication between the OpenVMS > system and the printer. > > To create a DCPS diag file, define this logical name: > > $ DEFINE /EXECUTIVE_MODE /SYSTEM DCPS$TEST 1 > > and then stop and start the DCPS queue(s). > > Print with the following command: > > $ PRINT /NOTIFY /PARAMETERS=(your_parameters,DIAG=FILE=BOTH) file > > Diag files contain all data sent between the host and the printer in > files called: > > SYS$LOGIN:DCPS$JOB_entry_DIAG_FROM.LOG > SYS$LOGIN:DCPS$JOB_entry_DIAG_TO.LOG > > Diag files contain all print data information, so be cautious if the > files being printed contain confidential information. > > -------------------------------- > > > So print something simple that generates the error message. Then look at > the log files (won't be pretty because the VMS engineers purposefully > stripped comments and formatting of the postscript code to make it ugly > to spite *me* :-) and you may get an idea of the parameters being passed > to setpagedevice and then check against the printer manual to see which > one would cause the rangecheck. > > > Since the job aborts at the setpagedevice command, this should be > towards the end of the job (but DCPS is likely to send a "reset" group > of commands at the end of the job). > I didn't know about the DCPS$TEST logical ! (And it's not in the manuals...) > and then stop and start the DCPS queue(s). I guess that it's enough to re-start the offending queue ? All queues are running it's own DCPS symbiont (so far). I'll try that romorrow morning on the actual site. Many thanks for that one ! Jan-Erik. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:57:28 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Message-ID: <49063ada$0$12403$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Here is snippet of one example of the setpagedevice (taken from an LPS$$HPCLJ9500_INITPSDEVICE) ---- lps$lpsdict begin/lps$systemdict 1 dict def/lps$current-size{save 3 dict begin/N/lettertray def currentpagedevice/PageSize get aload pop 2 copy gt{exch}if/Y exch def/X exch def mark/11x17tray 792 1224/a3tray 842 1191/a4tray 595 842/a5tray 420 595/b5tray 499 709/c5envelopetray 459 649/com10envelopetray 297 684/dlenvelopetray 312 624/doublepostcardtray 420 567/executivetray 522 756/jb4tray 729 1032/jb5tray 516 729/legaltray 612 1008/lettertray 612 792/monarcenvelopetray 279 540 counttomark 3 idiv{Y sub abs 5 le exch X sub abs 5 le and{/N exch def exit}if pop}repeat cleartomark N exch end restore}def/3.875x7.5tray/monarcenvelopetray def/4.125x9.5tray/com10envelopetray def/b4tray/jb4tray def/b5tray/jb5tray def/c5tray/c5envelopetray def/dltray/dlenvelopetray def<>>>setpagedevice ---- lps$lpsdict begin -> starts a named dictionary /lps$systemdict 1 dict def -> creates a dictionary with space for one variable and its value. { and } enclose multiple commands to create a single object. /variable_name is used to define the variable. /variable value def -> a specific value set to a variable mark (or <<) /variable value /variable value /variable value >> will create a dictionary on the stack and define all those variables with those values. so in the above example, setpage device is given a dictionary (the outermost >>) which contains another dictionary inside the innermost >>) It is a real shame that the VMS engineers ran some program to purposefully make that code difficult to read. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:30:31 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Message-ID: <03519628$0$2166$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> OK, I installed DCPS 2.6 and ECO3 on my alpha. The LPS$$XEROXWCP modules don't contain a setpagedevice in the INITPSDEVICE But it contains them in other modules such as: LPS$$XEROXWCP_SETINPUTTRAY LPS$$XEROXWCP_SETOUTPUTTRAY LPS$$XEROXWCP_SETSTAPLE The INITPSDEVIDE apperas to be setting up a dictionary, but not using setpagedevice to set it. Possibly done by the DCPS software itself outside of the library modules. Your logs of communications should show how this is being done. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:57:12 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: DCPS setpagedevice PS error on a Xerox WCP 35 Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote: > OK, I installed DCPS 2.6 and ECO3 on my alpha. > > The LPS$$XEROXWCP modules don't contain a setpagedevice in the INITPSDEVICE > > But it contains them in other modules such as: > > LPS$$XEROXWCP_SETINPUTTRAY > LPS$$XEROXWCP_SETOUTPUTTRAY > LPS$$XEROXWCP_SETSTAPLE Seems logical since it's an Xerox WCP printer we're using. > > The INITPSDEVIDE apperas to be setting up a dictionary, but not using > setpagedevice to set it. Possibly done by the DCPS software itself > outside of the library modules. Your logs of communications should show > how this is being done. OK. I tried to fake using a "Xerox WCP 35" on my HP LJ 2015n office printer, by setting the product_name logical. Now I *do* get a DCPS$JOB_994_DIAG_TO.LOG file, but with no setpagedevice in it. Weird. When I did the same without the product_name logical, I get a LOG file with 4 or 5 setpagedevice in it. Weird. The DIAG_FROM logs are always empty, since IP_LPD is uni-directional, I guess. Note that this wasn't on the production system at the client site, but I would have expected the same output. V2.6 ECO3 in both places. I'm lost... :-) Jan-Erik. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:44:03 -0400 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" Subject: Re: Does anyone know what time it is? SYS$GETTIM Message-ID: <4905C5A3.1616.1AC3115A@infovax.stanq.com> On 27 Oct 2008 at 12:21, John Vottero wrote: > It depends on whether you pass an absolute time or a delta time to > sys$setimr. If it's just before 2am and you set a timer for 2:30am, when > the time jumps to 3am your timer will fire (even though you just set it). > If you had passed a delta time of 30 minutes, the timer would fire 30 > minutes later (and the time would be 3:30am). > > I think it has always worked this way. In later versions of VMS, the underlying clock is UTC, which doesn't change. But there doesn't seem to be any documentation on whether GETTIM returns the UTC time or local time. Guess we'll just have to test it... --Stan Quayle Quayle Consulting Inc. ---------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH 43147 USA stan-at-stanq-dot-com http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:08:16 -0600 From: Rob Brown Subject: Re: Enhancing DCL, was: Re: How do I add 2 letters to a long Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 at 07:33 -0000, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article > , Rob Brown > writes: >> It sounds to me like you are saying that you did not use the RECALL >> command, but did something else that provides the same information. >> Am I misunderstanding you? > > Correct! No RECALL/ALL but DCL code which walks through the DCL > recall buffer to effect the same. Neat! > I've copied the command procedure to your default directory on > EISNER. Got it, thanks. - Rob -- Rob Brown b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o m G. Michaels Consulting Ltd. (780)438-9343 (voice) Edmonton (780)437-3367 (FAX) http://gmcl.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:21:38 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Enhancing DCL, was: Re: How do I add 2 letters to a long Message-ID: <00A81BFA.143BFC81@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article , Rob Brown writes: > >On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 at 07:33 -0000, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > >> In article >> , Rob Brown >> writes: > >>> It sounds to me like you are saying that you did not use the RECALL >>> command, but did something else that provides the same information. >>> Am I misunderstanding you? >> >> Correct! No RECALL/ALL but DCL code which walks through the DCL >> recall buffer to effect the same. > >Neat! > >> I've copied the command procedure to your default directory on >> EISNER. > >Got it, thanks. Excellent. Have fun with it. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright notice, disclaimer and quotations. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Oct 2008 05:43:00 GMT From: "David Weatherall" Subject: Fortran, debugger and Alpha/VMS 7.3-2 Message-ID: <6mnn33Fhnpk7U1@mid.individual.net> We finally upgraded the Alphas in our cluster from V7.3-1 to -2 last week. As expected, we never saw any problem until my colleague needed to use the debugger with her Fortran (V7.5...) program. It contains a Structure/record like structure /asd$record/ character*36 asd_name character*36 efile_name character*12 other_name ... end structure record /asd$record/ asd_record In the debugger we can EXA ASD_RECORD without problem but EXA ASD_RECORD.ASD_NAME generates the following error :- %DEBUG-E-INTERR, debugger error in DBGADDEXP\DETERMINE_TYPE unknown arg type or session corruption T'was fine on 7.3-1. Anybody know what's going on? John? Kristine, my colleague, is less than impressed. Cheers - Dave Now that I look at it, the $ in asd$record is a bit suspicious perhaps. -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:43:35 -0000 From: "John Wallace" Subject: Re: is google groups stuck Message-ID: <9sGdnV8mcocd-5rUnZ2dnUVZ8hWdnZ2d@posted.plusnet> "Neil Rieck" wrote in message news:6eaf031a-7396-46d3-b0fa-1b6bed54e7a6@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > I posted a few messages to google groups on Sunday but nothing has > appeared (yet). Is google groups broken? > > Neil Yes, afaict it is on the whole well broken. A few new messages seem to have appeared today but far fewer than I have accessible via my home ISP's news server (which isn't accessible while I'm at work, hence I have traditionally used Google Groups for minimum hassle. I am sorry if this offends some readers, but hey, it's a free world. Sometimes.). I spent a few minutes earlier today looking for somewhere where one might either report a problem to The Powers That Be at Google or where one might discuss an apparent problem with others in the same situation. Couldn't find either, maybe others will be more fortunate. If google groups is going to fall apart, maybe Island Computers kind offer is more pressing than it may have at first appeared. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:00:59 -0700 (PDT) From: sean@obanion.us Subject: Java for OpenVMS registration for download broken Message-ID: <4f2b7970-acda-406a-b9f9-ff432c6f541b@75g2000hso.googlegroups.com> http://h18012.www1.hp.com/java/download/ovms/1.5.0/jdk5.0_form.html Above is the web site for downloading Java for OpenVMS. When submitting it's filled out registration form, connection to ONLINECGI03.COMPAQ.COM times out, which also does not respond to PING. The support page for the above page points to the same ONLINECGI03.COMPAQ.COM so a direct complaint is not possible. I've submitted this problem through ITRC... Or is this just me? Sean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:37:23 -0400 From: Brendan Welch Subject: Re: OT: newsgroups.comcast.net Message-ID: > And mine said 25-October - go figure... > > Well, we'll look for a cut-off at the 28-October date; until then, happy > posting... > I just now tried to read this group on Comcast, but was denied access to the server. and, they never said anything about this (in the printed material which comes with the monthly bill). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:38:17 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: OT: newsgroups.comcast.net Message-ID: <490636a6$0$3326$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Brendan Welch wrote: > I just now tried to read this group on Comcast, but was denied access > to the server. and, they never said anything about this (in the printed > material which comes with the monthly bill). For the major US ISPs, the removal of NNTP service was a sacrificial lamb to show to the new york state attorney that they were doing something to fight child pornography. Since ISPs think that very few people use NNTP, they can pull the plug with minimal complaints and then show that they have taken a major step. And the new york state demand that they do something was the perfect opportunity to pull the plug on those servers to save on costs. (instead of just blocking submissions to binary newsgroups that contain illegal material which requires more system management man/hours). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:31:17 +0100 (CET) From: BRAD@rabbit.turquoisewitch.com (Brad Hamilton) Subject: Re: OT: newsgroups.comcast.net Message-ID: In article , Brendan Welch wrote: > >> And mine said 25-October - go figure... >> >> Well, we'll look for a cut-off at the 28-October date; until then, happy >> posting... >> > >I just now tried to read this group on Comcast, but was denied access >to the server. and, they never said anything about this (in the printed >material which comes with the monthly bill). Me and my big mouth... I'm now posting from aioe - seems to be working OK so far... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:41:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Gezelter Subject: Re: SYSMAN Problem Message-ID: <60c5fe38-b4c4-4975-9fd6-e27f29797257@y79g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> On Oct 26, 1:49=A0pm, lee.mor...@o2.com wrote: > Hello All > > I use SYSMAN to connect to many of my VMS nodes to run generic > commands and I'm having problems with one specific node. > > My setup is as follows: > > $ ASSIGN/TABLE=3DSYSMAN$NODE_TABLE/NOLOG =A0- > ABSLIV,ABSUAT,ABSDEV,ABSTST,ABSMSI,SPTEST,ABSCUK =A0 ABS > > I then SYSMAN set env/node=3DABS which works fine and I put my password > in without issue. > > I then run SYSMAN> do show system/process=3D*dec* which works across all > nodes except on one for which I get the following message: > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node SPTEST > OpenVMS V7.3-2 =A0on node SPTEST =A026-OCT-2008 17:46:49.96 =A0Uptime =A0= 45 > 08:58:51 > =A0 Pid =A0 =A0Process Name =A0 =A0State =A0Pri =A0 =A0 =A0I/O =A0 =A0 = =A0 CPU =A0 =A0 =A0 Page > flts =A0Pages > 0013FE43 DECevent_SPTEST HIB =A0 =A0 =A06 =A0 =A0 =A0909 =A0 0 00:00:00.2= 0 > 1939 =A0 1045 > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node ABSCUK > %SYSMAN-I-NODERR, error returned from node ABSCUK > -SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHOBJ, network object is unknown at remote node > > I can run standard decnet commands between the target and source node > without any issues so I don't think it's a uaf problem. > > Also, decnet_register is correct for both nodes when looking at each > other. > > If anyone can shed any light on this I'd be really grateful. > > Thanks very much. > > Lee. Lee, Pardon the presumption, but can you list the known objects at ABSCUK? - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:25:09 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: test: is google groups stuck Message-ID: <49065be0$0$90263$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Neil Rieck wrote: > I posted a few messages to google groups on Sunday but nothing has > appeared (yet). Is google groups broken? GG has had some problems the last few days. It seems as if it is clearing up now. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:50:46 -0600 From: Keith Parris Subject: Re: When was "Line editing" introduced? Message-ID: tadamsmar wrote: > When was SET TERM/LINE (Line editing) introduced? VAX/VMS 4.0, same release as VAXclusters. ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.582 ************************