INFO-VAX Tue, 06 May 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 252 Contents: Re: Advantages of Clustered 4100s Re: Advantages of Clustered 4100s Re: OT: Need HTML Help Re: OT: Need HTML Help Re: OT: Need HTML Help Question: debugging a program run via CLD Re: Question: debugging a program run via CLD SOLVED: MX duplicate name Re: TCPIP$BIND modification TCPIP-F-SSH_ALLOC_ERROR, ssh memory allocation error Re: TCPIP-F-SSH_ALLOC_ERROR, ssh memory allocation error Re: What systems can use USB? Re: What systems can use USB? Re: What systems can use USB? Re: What systems can use USB? What's the most likely backup format? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 13:53:26 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Advantages of Clustered 4100s Message-ID: Cross Michael C Mr CIV USAF 53 CSS/SCO wrote: > I have two 4100s that are clustered. Do they share CPUs and memory when > a user logs into any of the 4100s? No! >I am considering shutting down one > of the 4100s. > You can probably move CPU's and memory from the machine you shut down to the machine you still have running, assuming that it's not already maxed out. ISTR that a 4100 can support up to four CPU's. I don't recall what the maximum memory might be but I'd be surprised if you couldn't install at least 4 GB. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 23:01:24 +0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kari_Uusim=E4ki?= Subject: Re: Advantages of Clustered 4100s Message-ID: <481f6799$0$2675$9b536df3@news.fv.fi> Cross Michael C Mr CIV USAF 53 CSS/SCO wrote: > I have two 4100s that are clustered. Do they share CPUs and memory when > a user logs into any of the 4100s? I am considering shutting down one > of the 4100s. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike Cross > > > > > I hope you are aware of what you need to do about the cluster configuration when you remove one node (computer) from a cluster. The least you need to do is to reconfigure the cluster. I also hope that you are sure that you don't need the other node for some application or service and you don't create any single point of failure. Usually OpenVMS nodes are clustered to provide better service or redundancy. Regards, Kari ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:40:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: OT: Need HTML Help Message-ID: <96f0e59a-24b7-4560-b585-9af078efa122@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> On May 5, 9:37=A0am, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote: > In article , Neil Rieck writes: > > > > > You have no idea how bad it is. Last month I received an email from > > corporate security commanding me to uninstall Firefox from my PC (they > > watch everyone with Tivoli). I told them to get lost because I needed > > the Firefox web-developer plugins to make sure my pages were > > compliant. I'm not sure if they are planing to leave me alone or get a > > bigger stick. (I'm not sure what they think when they see me using the > > HTML validator all the time atwww.w3.org) > > > A few weeks back I noticed one of out internal web sites was now > > supporting .NET plugins which means the proprietary invasion has begun > > in ernest. > > > Last week I went to our HR web site with IE7 and was redirected to a > > failure page informing me to try again with IE6. > > =A0 =A0Our customers have told us do not load IE7, remove Netscape as it > =A0 =A0is no longer supported, and use IE only for sites which won't work > =A0 =A0without it. > > =A0 =A0And I keep dinging our web site developers for using MS only HTML. If you believe the hype, 50% of all users in Europe use Firefox. It is fast and compliant. Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 18:24:25 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: OT: Need HTML Help Message-ID: <481f8914$0$90271$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Neil Rieck wrote: > If you believe the hype, 50% of all users in Europe use Firefox. It is > fast and compliant. Not quite. But some countries in Europe are heavy users of FF. There are different statistics. Xiti usually have relative high numbers for FF compared with others, but I believe at least the differences between countries are real. http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-us/browsers-barometer/firefox-march-2008/index-1-2-3-127.html Also note that besides country then IT skills also influence browser choice a lot. Expect 60-80% FF users among IT professionals. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 16:22:21 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: OT: Need HTML Help Message-ID: On Mon, 05 May 2008 14:40:00 -0700, Neil Rieck wrote: > If you believe the hype, 50% of all users in Europe use Firefox. It is > fast and compliant. I use IE7 for Hotmail, Firefox as my default and Opera for News and filling out forms. Googling is best with the latter 2. Google desktop is a far better way to locate things on your own PC. -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:18:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Jordan Subject: Question: debugging a program run via CLD Message-ID: I haven't had to do this before and haven't found the magic switch yet. BASIC program designed to run with a CLD file defining two mandatory parameters, no qualifiers. Compiled and linked /debug and running it works as expected. But running it via the CLD (ie "$ program parameter1 parameter2" doesn't start the debugger. I imagine its simple to do this; info is not in the CLD utility manual, and I'll delve into DEBUG tomorrow but if anyone knows off the top I'd appreciate a pointer. Thanks Rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 18:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Subject: Re: Question: debugging a program run via CLD Message-ID: On May 5, 7:18=A0pm, Rich Jordan wrote: > I haven't had to do this before and haven't found the magic switch > yet. =A0BASIC program designed to run with a CLD file defining two > mandatory parameters, no qualifiers. =A0Compiled and linked /debug and > running it works as expected. =A0But running it via the CLD (ie > > "$ program parameter1 parameter2" > > doesn't start the debugger. > > I imagine its simple to do this; info is not in the CLD utility > manual, and I'll delve into DEBUG tomorrow but if anyone knows off the > top I'd appreciate a pointer. > > Thanks > > Rich Perhaps you're not running the version of the program built with debug? Is the executable's location defined in the CLD or defaulting to SYS$SYSTEM? Is the there a logical name defining the executable image? Is this image INSTALLed? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 10:50:31 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: SOLVED: MX duplicate name Message-ID: On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:52:55 -0700, Tom Linden wrote: > On Sun, 04 May 2008 05:39:32 -0700, Tom Linden > wrote: > >> On Sat, 03 May 2008 23:16:59 -0700, Hein RMS van den Heuvel >> wrote: >> >>> On May 3, 9:41 pm, "Tom Linden" wrote: >>>> I have been struggling with a seemingly trivial problem, changing my >>>> IP >>>> die to a flake ISP.  TCPIP leaves a lot to be desired, but leave that >>>> for >>>> the moment,  Can't start the MX smtp server >>>> >>>> ODIN> more MX_ROOT:[SMTP]SMTP_SERVER_ODIN.LOG >>>>   3-MAY-2008 07:26:12.08:  MX SMTP Server (pid 21420E8F) starting >>>> %SYSTEM-F-DUPLNAM, duplicate name >>>> %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows >>>> >>>> Where would I look for the duplication? >>> >>> Process name? >>> $ help /mess dupname >>> >>> Hein. >> >> FREJA> help /mess duplname >> %MSGHLP-F-NOTFOUND, message not found in Help Message database >> >> Nothing in MX either. >> > > Spelling it correctly doesn't shed any new light , but looking at OPCON > see > > INTERnet ACP AUXS error during process exit Status = > %SYSTEM-F-LINKDISCON > Apparently under 8.3 a SHOW SYSTEM doesn't display a TCPIP SMTP client, at least I didn't recognise one, but turning it off via the config script did the trick -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 18:06:26 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: TCPIP$BIND modification Message-ID: <481f85ae$0$20613$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Jose Baars wrote: > on all slave servers, which is a pain. set server/init is as far as I > know not the recommended method > to restart the bind server on newer versions of tcpip. SET NAME/INIT does not restart the server per say. It causes it to re-initialise itself by rereading all config files and reloading the zone files from disk. The output continues to the same log file. (so you have to scroll down to see the results of the reload). I believe that SET NAME/INIT is the equivalent to rndc reload RNDC == "$SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$RNDC.EXE" typing rndc alone will give you a list of options to control the bind *server*. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:52:37 -0400 From: "Peter Weaver" Subject: TCPIP-F-SSH_ALLOC_ERROR, ssh memory allocation error Message-ID: <003501c8aed8$ce868330$2802a8c0@CHARONLAP> HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version T5.7 on an AlphaServer 800 5/500 running OpenVMS V8.3 But also seen on V5.6 and T5.7 on RX2600 and V5.6 on Alpha I have setup my SSH clients (Putty for Windows, Putty for Pocket PC and some other product that I forget now) to do port forwarding so I can get POP mail and that works fine. But when I setup port forwarding for PC Anywhere and/or Remote Desktop I get "TCPIP-F-SSH_ALLOC_ERROR, ssh memory allocation error" in my TCPIP$SSH_RUN.LOG and the SSH client disconnects. I have doubled and tripled all quotas for the TCPIP$SSH username. I have also tried watching the quotas on the TCPIP$SSH process as it dies but none of the quotas get anywhere near their maximum. The Accounting information also shows that none of the quotas are near their maximum values (AUTHORIZE for the TCPIP$SSH account or PQL parameters in SYSGEN). Does anyone know what is causing this error and how to fix it? Peter Weaver www.WeaverConsulting.ca www.OpenVMSvirtualization.com www.VAXvirtualization.com www.AlphaVirtualization.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 20:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: sms.antinode@gmail.com Subject: Re: TCPIP-F-SSH_ALLOC_ERROR, ssh memory allocation error Message-ID: <4a1d1e88-5cf0-4b8b-9442-504bf26e5223@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Peter Weaver wrote: > [...] But when I > setup port forwarding for PC Anywhere and/or Remote Desktop That may tell someone else something about what you did, but not me. > I get > "TCPIP-F-SSH_ALLOC_ERROR, ssh memory allocation error" in my > TCPIP$SSH_RUN.LOG and the SSH client disconnects. I have doubled > and tripled all quotas for the TCPIP$SSH username. I have also > tried watching the quotas on the TCPIP$SSH process as it dies but > none of the quotas get anywhere near their maximum. Which quotas are "all" quotas? Is the problem with the TCPIP$SSH account, or the user's account? Knowing nothing, I'd assume that malloc() failed, so I'd suspect a shortage of virtual memory (page file quota). SMS. ------------------------------ Date: 5 May 2008 19:05:39 GMT From: healyzh@aracnet.com Subject: Re: What systems can use USB? Message-ID: sms.antinode@gmail.com wrote: > A better question might be, "Which USB cards will work in an Alpha > VMS V8.3 system?" As it's likely that no such cards are supported in > either system, and you've provided no identification for the cards, > you'll probably need to run the experimant, in any case. Based on what I was able to Google, it looks like the main thing is that you have the right chip on the card, and I've plenty of different ones with the right card. > I stopped using my AlpSta 200 4/233 systems before I got my USB > cards, and their PCI slots were filled with graphics and network > cards, > so I was never tempted to try a USB card there. Good point, there are only two slots in the AlphaStation 200 4/233 aren't there. I've been wanting to get one back online as a desktop, but the second XP1000 is a more practical desktop, and I believe I have a better graphics adapter for it. Somehow the 200's are better headless, that way you have one slot for network, the other for a faster SCSI adapter. Zane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 12:48:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Jordan Subject: Re: What systems can use USB? Message-ID: On May 5, 2:05 pm, heal...@aracnet.com wrote: > sms.antin...@gmail.com wrote: > > A better question might be, "Which USB cards will work in an Alpha > > VMS V8.3 system?" As it's likely that no such cards are supported in > > either system, and you've provided no identification for the cards, > > you'll probably need to run the experimant, in any case. > > Based on what I was able to Google, it looks like the main thing is that you > have the right chip on the card, and I've plenty of different ones with the > right card. > > > I stopped using my AlpSta 200 4/233 systems before I got my USB > > cards, and their PCI slots were filled with graphics and network > > cards, > > so I was never tempted to try a USB card there. > > Good point, there are only two slots in the AlphaStation 200 4/233 aren't > there. I've been wanting to get one back online as a desktop, but the > second XP1000 is a more practical desktop, and I believe I have a better > graphics adapter for it. Somehow the 200's are better headless, that way > you have one slot for network, the other for a faster SCSI adapter. > > Zane You might try doing a google group search on FORREST KENNEY USB to see the posts by the master of VMS USB stuff. I don't have time to preview but I'd bet you can find answers there. Rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 20:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "zzbunker@netscape.net" Subject: Re: What systems can use USB? Message-ID: <9dca62f2-dda8-408e-ac0a-4bf384949d3f@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> On May 4, 9:31=A0pm, heal...@aracnet.com wrote: > I just found my stash of USB 2.0 cards. =A0What systems will work with a U= SB > 2.0 PCI card? =A0I gather they should work in my XP1000's, but what > about something like my AlphaStation 200 4/233's? =A0This would be while > running OpenVMS 8.3. All electronic systems can work with USB. Since it's the main way to keep people with line printers from consuming your entire company budget. So it's mosty a matter of building the card. > > Zane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 23:39:17 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: What systems can use USB? Message-ID: <481fd363$0$7283$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> zzbunker@netscape.net wrote: > All electronic systems can work with USB. Not the DS10 class of Alpha servers. Their USB hardware is crippled and non-functional. Also, for those VMS systems that have functioning USB hardware, what real software support is there in VMS ? Can VMS mount, read, write FAT/FAT32 formatted USB sticks ? How many cameras/telephones can be connected to VMS with some actual functionality ? (aka: not just: "yeah, the driver sees some phone device on the USB bus"). Or is the goal for VMS to just provide the foundation so that individuals can then build their own applications ? (aka, some manufacturing plant writing code to control some USB robot) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 21:57:44 -0700 (PDT) From: forest demon Subject: What's the most likely backup format? Message-ID: <99b93071-031a-4e9c-bf91-bec1a8be8110@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com> I have a DLT III tape that was written to on a VMS system. That's all I know. Is it possible to scan this tape looking for data? I guess my question is, what format was the data, that was most likely written to the tape? I know nothing about VMS or DEC hardware. I'm a Unix and Windows guy and want to try and recover some data off of this tape, but i'm thinking that it's in some proprietary format? I know there are a lot of variables with this open ended question, but it's worth a try. Thanks to all who reply. -fd ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.252 ************************