INFO-VAX Fri, 02 May 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 245 Contents: Re: Another sad day - Digital Starion bites the dust. Changing Broadcast mask Re: Changing Broadcast mask Re: Changing Broadcast mask Re: Changing Broadcast mask Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Re: Don't complain about your billing rates just yet Re: Don't complain about your billing rates just yet DTSS: EXTERNAL TIME SOURCE IS FAULTY Re: Encompass - Endeavour Re: Encompass - Endeavour Re: ES45 says power supply failed Guess % of resumes that have a statement that is not true Re: Guess % of resumes that have a statement that is not true Re: Intel Itanium RAS Comparison with X86 Re: Intel Itanium RAS Comparison with X86 Re: Intel Itanium RAS Comparison with X86 Re: Intel Itanium RAS Comparison with X86 Re: Odd backup corruption Re: OT: Need HTML Help Re: The Minimum You Need to Know About Service Oriented Architecture Re: Using sftp from OpenVMS to Windows - How to avoid version numbers ? ?? Re: Using sftp from OpenVMS to Windows - How to avoid version numbers ? ?? Re: V8.3-1H1 anyone? Re: VAX 6310 Free to a good home Re: VAX 6310 Free to a good home ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 08:42:52 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Another sad day - Digital Starion bites the dust. Message-ID: Michael Austin wrote: > After running for more that 13 years my Digital Starion has bit the > dust. From 95-1999 it ran Windows 95/98/ME. Then in 1999 I installed > Caldera Linux. It has been functioning to log into my linksys router > and updating my dynamic DNS provider ever since. It lost the "C:" drive > part of the controller around 2001 - and has been booting off of a > floppy and changing control to the hard drive ever since. > > Anyway it died a horrible death and no longer reboots or anything. I > replaced it's functionality tonight with a simple php script that does > the same thing - Logs into the router, checks the IP address, compares > it to my DNS, then updates if it has changed - resubmits batch job and > runs every 5 minutes. > > DEC really knew how to build hardware. (and software, and drives and > tape and chips and .. and... and... ) And, had they been willing/able to do so at competitive prices, they might still be around. RIP DEC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 08:33:45 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Changing Broadcast mask Message-ID: HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.6 - ECO 1 on a COMPAQ Professional Workstation XP1000 running OpenVMS V8.3 Have a flaky ISP so had to change IPs Running TCPIP$CONFIG I can't find an entry for changing the Broadcast Mask When I run through the menu, shutdown and start and do an IFCONFIG it still, of course, shows the old mask, because I nowhere found a query to change it. What did I miss? -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 11:53:18 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Changing Broadcast mask Message-ID: Tom Linden wrote: > HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.6 - ECO 1 > on a COMPAQ Professional Workstation XP1000 running OpenVMS V8.3 > > Have a flaky ISP so had to change IPs > > Running TCPIP$CONFIG I can't find an entry for changing the Broadcast Mask > When I run through the menu, shutdown and start and do an IFCONFIG > it still, of course, shows the old mask, because I nowhere found a query to > change it. > > What did I miss? > What is a "broadcast mask"? There's a broadcast address and a subnet mask but I don't believe that I've ever encountered a "broadcast mask"! ------------------------------ Date: 2 May 2008 16:02:28 GMT From: DAVISM@ecr6.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis) Subject: Re: Changing Broadcast mask Message-ID: In article , "Richard B. Gilbert writes: >Tom Linden wrote: >> HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.6 - ECO 1 >> on a COMPAQ Professional Workstation XP1000 running OpenVMS V8.3 >> >> Have a flaky ISP so had to change IPs >> >> Running TCPIP$CONFIG I can't find an entry for changing the Broadcast Mask >> When I run through the menu, shutdown and start and do an IFCONFIG >> it still, of course, shows the old mask, because I nowhere found a query to >> change it. >> >> What did I miss? >> > >What is a "broadcast mask"? There's a broadcast address and a subnet >mask but I don't believe that I've ever encountered a "broadcast mask"! What about... $ TCPIP SET CONFIG INTERFACE /BROADCAST_MASK= ...? Regards, Mike -- | Systems Specialist: CBE,MSE Michael T. Davis (Mike) | Departmental Networking/Computing http://www.ecr6.ohio-state.edu/~davism/ | The Ohio State University | 197 Watts, (614) 292-6928 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 12:31:55 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Changing Broadcast mask Message-ID: Michael T. Davis wrote: > In article , "Richard B. Gilbert > writes: > >> Tom Linden wrote: >>> HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.6 - ECO 1 >>> on a COMPAQ Professional Workstation XP1000 running OpenVMS V8.3 >>> >>> Have a flaky ISP so had to change IPs >>> >>> Running TCPIP$CONFIG I can't find an entry for changing the Broadcast Mask >>> When I run through the menu, shutdown and start and do an IFCONFIG >>> it still, of course, shows the old mask, because I nowhere found a query to >>> change it. >>> >>> What did I miss? >>> >> What is a "broadcast mask"? There's a broadcast address and a subnet >> mask but I don't believe that I've ever encountered a "broadcast mask"! > > What about... > > $ TCPIP SET CONFIG INTERFACE /BROADCAST_MASK= > > ...? > > Regards, > Mike > -- > | Systems Specialist: CBE,MSE > Michael T. Davis (Mike) | Departmental Networking/Computing > http://www.ecr6.ohio-state.edu/~davism/ | The Ohio State University > | 197 Watts, (614) 292-6928 If correct, it demonstrates the existence of a "broadcast mask" but fails to define what a "broadcast mask" is/does. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 23:46:42 +1000 From: Gremlin Subject: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Message-ID: Hi All I have 3 alphas (alpha, beta and gamma - imaginative names eh!)- (2*DS10L and one Personal Alpha v2) running hobbyist versions of VMS 8.3 and all the layered product licenses. DECnet Plus is operating perfectly on all of them and I have used them fine for a long time. The licenses have expiry dates of August. I decided to cluster them, so I read the fine manuals to refresh my memory and then ran CLUSTER_CONFIG on alpha. I told it to boot locally, not serve MSCP or boot disks, use an ALLOCLASS of 1, use LANCP for cluster comms etc., expected votes = 2 (three nodes, so any two are OK), no quorum disk. When it reboots, all is fine *except* that it has now decided that the OPENVMS-ALPHA license is expired. Checking the database it shows an expiry of August. The LMF logical points to SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE] as I think it should. So, some things won't start and I can only log in from the console. Funny thing is that TCP/IP and everyhting else is fine - the web server works and is accessible, FTP works - I can't log in. Next problem - I ran CLUSTER_CONFIG on gamma, told it to join the cluster, same configuration details etc. When it boots, it joins the cluster and then fails back to the >>> with the message OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.3 © Copyright 1976-2006 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P. %DECnet-I-LOADED, network base image loaded, version = 05.13.00 %SYSINIT-I- waiting to form or join an OpenVMS Cluster %VMScluster-I-LOADSECDB, loading the cluster security database %CNXMAN, Sending VMScluster membership request to system ALPHA %CNXMAN, Now a VMScluster member -- system GAMMA %SYSINIT-E- volume already mounted on a differently-named device, status = 00728 0B4 **** OpenVMS Alpha Operating System V8.3 - BUGCHECK **** ** Bugcheck code = 0000036C: PROCGONE, Process not in system ** Crash CPU: 00000000 Primary CPU: 00000000 Node Name: GAMMA ** Supported CPU count: 00000001 ** Active CPUs: 00000000.00000001 ** Current Process: SYSINIT ** Current PSB ID: 00000001 ** Image Name: SYSINIT.EXE OK, what volume? There is only one disk in each box, MSCP_LOAD and MSCP_SERVE_ALL are both 0....what have I done wrong (again)! All help truly appreciated. Cheers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 13:56:47 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Message-ID: Gremlin wrote: > use an > ALLOCLASS of 1, Same on all three boxes ? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 00:02:32 +1000 From: Gremlin Subject: Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Message-ID: <28GdnaFkf8Zng4bVnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@internode> Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > Gremlin wrote: > >> use an ALLOCLASS of 1, > > Same on all three boxes ? No - alpha is 1, gamma is 2 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:13:16 -0400 From: "Ken Robinson" Subject: Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Message-ID: <7dd80f60805020713k70911fcdt2e7fa8de42162f36@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_7961_20990494.1209737596792 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is your problem: %SYSINIT-E- volume already mounted on a differently-named device, status = 00728 All the system drives on the three different machines have the same volume label. Boot two of the three machines, standalone, and rename the volume label to something unique. $ set vol/label=newlabel Ken ------=_Part_7961_20990494.1209737596792 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

This is your problem:

%SYSINIT-E- volume already mounted on a differently-named device, status = 00728

All the system drives on the three different machines have the same volume label.  Boot two of the three machines, standalone, and rename the volume label to something unique.

$ set vol/label=newlabel

Ken
------=_Part_7961_20990494.1209737596792-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 00:37:54 +1000 From: Gremlin Subject: Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Message-ID: Gremlin wrote: > Hi All > > I have 3 alphas (alpha, beta and gamma - imaginative names eh!)- > (2*DS10L and one Personal Alpha v2) running hobbyist versions of VMS 8.3 > and all the layered product licenses. DECnet Plus is operating > perfectly on all of them and I have used them fine for a long time. The > licenses have expiry dates of August. I decided to cluster them, so I > read the fine manuals to refresh my memory and then ran CLUSTER_CONFIG > on alpha. > > I told it to boot locally, not serve MSCP or boot disks, use an > ALLOCLASS of 1, use LANCP for cluster comms etc., expected votes = 2 > (three nodes, so any two are OK), no quorum disk. > > When it reboots, all is fine *except* that it has now decided that the > OPENVMS-ALPHA license is expired. Checking the database it shows an > expiry of August. The LMF logical points to SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE] as I > think it should. So, some things won't start and I can only log in from > the console. Funny thing is that TCP/IP and everyhting else is fine - > the web server works and is accessible, FTP works - I can't log in. > > Next problem - I ran CLUSTER_CONFIG on gamma, told it to join the > cluster, same configuration details etc. When it boots, it joins the > cluster and then fails back to the >>> with the message > > OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.3 > © Copyright 1976-2006 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P. > > %DECnet-I-LOADED, network base image loaded, version = 05.13.00 > > %SYSINIT-I- waiting to form or join an OpenVMS Cluster > %VMScluster-I-LOADSECDB, loading the cluster security database > %CNXMAN, Sending VMScluster membership request to system ALPHA > %CNXMAN, Now a VMScluster member -- system GAMMA > %SYSINIT-E- volume already mounted on a differently-named device, status > = 00728 > 0B4 > > **** OpenVMS Alpha Operating System V8.3 - BUGCHECK **** > > ** Bugcheck code = 0000036C: PROCGONE, Process not in system > ** Crash CPU: 00000000 Primary CPU: 00000000 Node Name: GAMMA > ** Supported CPU count: 00000001 > ** Active CPUs: 00000000.00000001 > ** Current Process: SYSINIT > ** Current PSB ID: 00000001 > ** Image Name: SYSINIT.EXE > > > OK, what volume? There is only one disk in each box, MSCP_LOAD and > MSCP_SERVE_ALL are both 0....what have I done wrong (again)! > > All help truly appreciated. > > Cheers Fantastic - re-labelling fixed the second problem, any thoughts about why the license now seems invalid? Now both nodes nelieve that there is no valid OPENVMS_ALPHA license, but everything else (like TCP/IP etc) works fine!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:52:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Jordan Subject: Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Message-ID: On May 2, 9:37 am, Gremlin wrote: > Gremlin wrote: > > Hi All > > > I have 3 alphas (alpha, beta and gamma - imaginative names eh!)- > > (2*DS10L and one Personal Alpha v2) running hobbyist versions of VMS 8.3= > > and all the layered product licenses. DECnet Plus is operating > > perfectly on all of them and I have used them fine for a long time. The= > > licenses have expiry dates of August. I decided to cluster them, so I > > read the fine manuals to refresh my memory and then ran CLUSTER_CONFIG > > on alpha. > > > I told it to boot locally, not serve MSCP or boot disks, use an > > ALLOCLASS of 1, use LANCP for cluster comms etc., expected votes =3D 2 > > (three nodes, so any two are OK), no quorum disk. > > > When it reboots, all is fine *except* that it has now decided that the > > OPENVMS-ALPHA license is expired. Checking the database it shows an > > expiry of August. The LMF logical points to SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE] as I > > think it should. So, some things won't start and I can only log in from= > > the console. Funny thing is that TCP/IP and everyhting else is fine - > > the web server works and is accessible, FTP works - I can't log in. > > > Next problem - I ran CLUSTER_CONFIG on gamma, told it to join the > > cluster, same configuration details etc. When it boots, it joins the > > cluster and then fails back to the >>> with the message > > > OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.3 > > =A9 Copyright 1976-2006 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P. > > > %DECnet-I-LOADED, network base image loaded, version =3D 05.13.00 > > > %SYSINIT-I- waiting to form or join an OpenVMS Cluster > > %VMScluster-I-LOADSECDB, loading the cluster security database > > %CNXMAN, Sending VMScluster membership request to system ALPHA > > %CNXMAN, Now a VMScluster member -- system GAMMA > > %SYSINIT-E- volume already mounted on a differently-named device, status= > > =3D 00728 > > 0B4 > > > **** OpenVMS Alpha Operating System V8.3 - BUGCHECK **** > > > ** Bugcheck code =3D 0000036C: PROCGONE, Process not in system > > ** Crash CPU: 00000000 Primary CPU: 00000000 Node Name: GAMMA > > ** Supported CPU count: 00000001 > > ** Active CPUs: 00000000.00000001 > > ** Current Process: SYSINIT > > ** Current PSB ID: 00000001 > > ** Image Name: SYSINIT.EXE > > > OK, what volume? There is only one disk in each box, MSCP_LOAD and > > MSCP_SERVE_ALL are both 0....what have I done wrong (again)! > > > All help truly appreciated. > > > Cheers > > Fantastic - re-labelling fixed the second problem, any thoughts about > why the license now seems invalid? Now both nodes nelieve that there is > no valid OPENVMS_ALPHA license, but everything else (like TCP/IP etc) > works fine!! I can't remember if this affects clusters without a common system disk and/or license database. With a common database you have to set certain licenses to EXCLUDE the nodes other than the one you want to load them. If for example you have three OPENVMS-ALPHA-USER licenses, one for each node, you had to LICENSE MODIFY OPENVMS-ALPHA-USER/ AUTH=3Dnode1licenseauthstring/EXCLUDE=3D(node2,node3), and do the same for each of the other two licenses. Otherwise whichever node accessed first would load all of the license PAKs and leave none for subsequent boots. I don't know if that is your problem. Double check the expiration dates on your cluster licenses, as well as the base and user licenses though. Rich ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 01:11:57 +1000 From: Gremlin Subject: Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Message-ID: Rich Jordan wrote: > On May 2, 9:37 am, Gremlin wrote: >> Gremlin wrote: >>> Hi All >>> I have 3 alphas (alpha, beta and gamma - imaginative names eh!)- >>> (2*DS10L and one Personal Alpha v2) running hobbyist versions of VMS 8.3 >>> and all the layered product licenses. DECnet Plus is operating >>> perfectly on all of them and I have used them fine for a long time. The >>> licenses have expiry dates of August. I decided to cluster them, so I >>> read the fine manuals to refresh my memory and then ran CLUSTER_CONFIG >>> on alpha. >>> I told it to boot locally, not serve MSCP or boot disks, use an >>> ALLOCLASS of 1, use LANCP for cluster comms etc., expected votes = 2 >>> (three nodes, so any two are OK), no quorum disk. >>> When it reboots, all is fine *except* that it has now decided that the >>> OPENVMS-ALPHA license is expired. Checking the database it shows an >>> expiry of August. The LMF logical points to SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE] as I >>> think it should. So, some things won't start and I can only log in from >>> the console. Funny thing is that TCP/IP and everyhting else is fine - >>> the web server works and is accessible, FTP works - I can't log in. >>> Next problem - I ran CLUSTER_CONFIG on gamma, told it to join the >>> cluster, same configuration details etc. When it boots, it joins the >>> cluster and then fails back to the >>> with the message >>> OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.3 >>> © Copyright 1976-2006 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P. >>> %DECnet-I-LOADED, network base image loaded, version = 05.13.00 >>> %SYSINIT-I- waiting to form or join an OpenVMS Cluster >>> %VMScluster-I-LOADSECDB, loading the cluster security database >>> %CNXMAN, Sending VMScluster membership request to system ALPHA >>> %CNXMAN, Now a VMScluster member -- system GAMMA >>> %SYSINIT-E- volume already mounted on a differently-named device, status >>> = 00728 >>> 0B4 >>> **** OpenVMS Alpha Operating System V8.3 - BUGCHECK **** >>> ** Bugcheck code = 0000036C: PROCGONE, Process not in system >>> ** Crash CPU: 00000000 Primary CPU: 00000000 Node Name: GAMMA >>> ** Supported CPU count: 00000001 >>> ** Active CPUs: 00000000.00000001 >>> ** Current Process: SYSINIT >>> ** Current PSB ID: 00000001 >>> ** Image Name: SYSINIT.EXE >>> OK, what volume? There is only one disk in each box, MSCP_LOAD and >>> MSCP_SERVE_ALL are both 0....what have I done wrong (again)! >>> All help truly appreciated. >>> Cheers >> Fantastic - re-labelling fixed the second problem, any thoughts about >> why the license now seems invalid? Now both nodes nelieve that there is >> no valid OPENVMS_ALPHA license, but everything else (like TCP/IP etc) >> works fine!! > > I can't remember if this affects clusters without a common system disk > and/or license database. With a common database you have to set > certain licenses to EXCLUDE the nodes other than the one you want to > load them. If for example you have three OPENVMS-ALPHA-USER licenses, > one for each node, you had to LICENSE MODIFY OPENVMS-ALPHA-USER/ > AUTH=node1licenseauthstring/EXCLUDE=(node2,node3), and do the same for > each of the other two licenses. Otherwise whichever node accessed > first would load all of the license PAKs and leave none for subsequent > boots. > > I don't know if that is your problem. Double check the expiration > dates on your cluster licenses, as well as the base and user licenses > though. > > Rich Hi Rich All licenses expire on the same data - 11-AUG-2008. The problem occurs even if only a single node is booted - the only way to stop it is to conversational boot, set VAXCLUSTER 0 then continue. Licenses work fine, but no cluster :( I will try your suggestion once I have settled the remaining tasks - seems a bit weird though and googling produces no help - than goodnes for cov! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 16:51:02 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Message-ID: <20080502155102.GA13938@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 01:11:57AM +1000, Gremlin wrote: > Rich Jordan wrote: > > > >I can't remember if this affects clusters without a common system disk > >and/or license database. With a common database you have to set > >certain licenses to EXCLUDE the nodes other than the one you want to > >load them. If for example you have three OPENVMS-ALPHA-USER licenses, > >one for each node, you had to LICENSE MODIFY OPENVMS-ALPHA-USER/ > >AUTH=node1licenseauthstring/EXCLUDE=(node2,node3), and do the same for > >each of the other two licenses. Otherwise whichever node accessed > >first would load all of the license PAKs and leave none for subsequent > >boots. I think this should be /INCLUDE: $ help lic modify/include LICENSE MODIFY /INCLUDE /INCLUDE=(node-name[,node-name,...]) Specifies that the named node or nodes in an OpenVMS Cluster environment can access the licensed product. Only the included nodes can load (with a LICENSE LOAD or LICENSE START command) the license registered in the License Database. Each node-name argument must be an SCS node name, or a system parameter set with SYSGEN. The node name might not be the same as the DECnet node name. Licenses for the OpenVMS operating system usually specify the NO_SHARE option on their PAKs. In a cluster environment you must restrict each of these OpenVMS licenses to a single node. If [etc.] I did this on my cluster. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 02:00:53 +1000 From: Gremlin Subject: Re: Cluster problems - or maybe license problems? Message-ID: <3qadnVobBuMqp4bVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@internode> <> Yee haa!!!! Tried Rich's suggestion, which was close and got me on the right track, ably assisted by Antonb who identified that it should be an /INCLUDE - well, you would think that either should work, but that's VMS. Actually, the /INCLUDE didn't work initially as I had about 5 years of "old" terminated licensed loaded and the /INCLUDE was getting confused. Solution: delete the terminated OPENVMS-ALPHA and OPENVMS-ALPHA-USER licenses, then lic mod /inc=xxx and it worked!!! Now to sort out the remaining bits, like why don't I have a common SYSUAF like I thought I would - oh well!! Cheers and thanks for all the help ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 08:47:26 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: Re: Don't complain about your billing rates just yet Message-ID: That'll make someone in India, and their immediate and distant family very happy. -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International: 001 706 993 1787 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= "yyyc186" wrote in message news:7c8be24c-a977-4feb-ae59-46336af28ad8@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >I was bored, but unable to focus on writing tonight, so did some > poking around on Dice. There, posted in the last 7 days is an COBOL > opening for an IBM COBOL consultant needing many years of experience > with a maximum billing rate of $24.00/hr. They claim to have no > flexibility on the billing rate. > > 2000 * $24 = $48000. > > Mom can have that operation now! > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 06:56:42 -0700 (PDT) From: yyyc186 Subject: Re: Don't complain about your billing rates just yet Message-ID: <9208ecbb-68ed-4934-8a33-c321ef38dad1@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> On May 2, 7:47=A0am, "David Turner, Island Computers" wrote: > That'll make someone in India, and their immediate and distant family very= > happy. > > > > 2000 * $24 =3D $48000. > Too bad it is for on-site work here in the U.S. With the national average for a new college grad being over $50K, they've just publicly advertized they are engaging in a criminal activity. I should have forwarded the link to the Justice Department. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 13:20:42 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: DTSS: EXTERNAL TIME SOURCE IS FAULTY Message-ID: <20080502122042.GA13304@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> I'm trying to synchronize a DTSS server to external NTP time provider. I get the following error, and I don't know what it means. Could it be that the skew is greater than the error tolerance? $ TYPE SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]dtss$ntp_tp.log [skip] %DTSS-I-INISYNC, Sync #10, 2008-05-02-13:10:42.189+01:00I0.194 ID: 1821747999 %DTSS-I-NTP, NTP time 10.10.10.1: 2008-05-02-12:13:14.757I1.171 -DTSS-I-SKEW, Skew 2008-05-02-12:10:42.193I0.194: -0-00:02:32.564I1.364 !!!!!!!!! DTSS: EXTERNAL TIME SOURCE IS FAULTY !!!!!!!!! The external time did not validate Synchronization Count: 10 Error Tolerance: 30 System Time: 2008-05-02-12:10:42.193I0.194 External Device Time: 2008-05-02-12:13:14.757I1.171 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! %DTSS-S-DONE, Sync complete, 2008-05-02-13:10:42.200+01:00I0.194 $ Some setup details are below. My NTP server is on FBSD box on the same local net (10.10.10.1). It's setup as UK, i.e. GMT+BST(british summer time): % date Fri 2 May 2008 13:05:16 BST % I setup each node in the VMS cluster to be also GMT+BST: $ SHOW LOGICAL *time* (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) "SYS$LOCALTIME" = "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYS$ZONEINFO.SYSTEM]GB." "SYS$TIMEZONE_DAYLIGHT_SAVING" = "1" "SYS$TIMEZONE_DIFFERENTIAL" = "3600" "SYS$TIMEZONE_NAME" = "BST" "SYS$TIMEZONE_RULE" = "GMT0BST-1,M3.5.0/01,M10.4.0/02" many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 06:53:36 -0700 (PDT) From: DaveG Subject: Re: Encompass - Endeavour Message-ID: On May 1, 4:36=A0pm, JF Mezei wrote: > Rich Jordan wrote: > > Feedback folks are pretty good, especially for website errors (I do > > consider VMS' position on the page to be an error but I don't suppose > > the feedback folks would be able to fix it ;) > > As long as VMS is no more hidden than Tandem/NSK, then I don't think > there can be any legitimate complaints. Neither are key HP products, > they are relegated to niche markets where HP just expect those who need > that systenm to come to HP (instead of HP trying to sell them that system)= > > HOWEVER: If there were an active VMS focused user group, such user group > could have long ago pressured HP to make VMS as prominent as > HP-UX/Windows/Linux on its web pages. I did send Stallard a thank you reply and also mentioned that to be fair, NonStop was also not found on the web page referenced, but could be found under "See More Operating Systems". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:53:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Jordan Subject: Re: Encompass - Endeavour Message-ID: <6b6dbea8-7848-45ca-ac58-83648cd293dc@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> On May 2, 8:53 am, DaveG wrote: > On May 1, 4:36 pm, JF Mezei wrote: > > > Rich Jordan wrote: > > > Feedback folks are pretty good, especially for website errors (I do > > > consider VMS' position on the page to be an error but I don't suppose > > > the feedback folks would be able to fix it ;) > > > As long as VMS is no more hidden than Tandem/NSK, then I don't think > > there can be any legitimate complaints. Neither are key HP products, > > they are relegated to niche markets where HP just expect those who need > > that systenm to come to HP (instead of HP trying to sell them that system) > > > HOWEVER: If there were an active VMS focused user group, such user group > > could have long ago pressured HP to make VMS as prominent as > > HP-UX/Windows/Linux on its web pages. > > I did send Stallard a thank you reply and also mentioned that to be > fair, NonStop was also not found on the web page referenced, but could > be found under "See More Operating Systems". Dave, looking forward to hearing what response you get, if any. Rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 08:49:17 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: Re: ES45 says power supply failed Message-ID: What is the part number on the motherboard (the main logic board into which the CPU plugs in? If it is an 01 then you'll need to replace with a -02 Lots and lots of problems with the 01 mlb ! David -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International: 001 706 993 1787 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= "Malcolm Dunnett" wrote in message news:481a5a5a$1@flight... > David Turner, Island Computers wrote: >> Maybe you have a bad memory carrier >> There were issues with ES40 and ES45 way back when they had rev issues >> with the carriers and had to replace them. >> > > I tried swapping (identically configured) carriers between MMB slots and > the problem stayed with the slots, so I assumed it was a problem on the > motherboard. I'm also suspicious since it calls out both MMB slots and > reports all DIMMS on each carrier as defective. > >> What DIMMS are they? >> > > They're 1GB DataRam DIMMS (I don't have the exact part number handy). > >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 23:46:19 -0700 (PDT) From: gorecroot Subject: Guess % of resumes that have a statement that is not true Message-ID: Source: http://www.gorecroot.com It=92s not 5 or 10, not even 20. A survey of global recruiters puts the estimate at 40%. Almost all recruiters surveyed have confirmed that they have started investing more time in verifying authenticity of resumes. Top lies are: 1. Dates 2. Achievements (stretching targets, increasing the number of people reporting in etc) 3. Education 4. Languages, skills Seemingly harmless short cuts are permeating all levels - right up to the now infamous RadioShack story. And, companies are including statements of the cleansing acts in their annual reports to the stock market. These short cuts are just that - so short lived. Like a candidate who had included couple of weeks of French grammar learning as, =93Proficient in French=94 was stumped when the interviewer started en Francaise. Perhapse restricting to cheese and wine would have been more convenient. All that, now we have the candidate and the employer in one table, the interview starts=85In a few minutes its all over - the employer has found some holes in the resume. Often recruiters take the brunt of all these. There are direct and indirect questions about: Did you doctor the resume? I would love to hear from fellow professionals on hilarious and some serious situations in the lines of above ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 09:00:14 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Guess % of resumes that have a statement that is not true Message-ID: gorecroot wrote: > Source: http://www.gorecroot.com > > > It’s not 5 or 10, not even 20. A survey of global recruiters puts the > estimate at 40%. > > Almost all recruiters surveyed have confirmed that they have started > investing more time in verifying authenticity of resumes. > > Top lies are: > 1. Dates > 2. Achievements (stretching targets, increasing the number of people > reporting in etc) > 3. Education > 4. Languages, skills > > Seemingly harmless short cuts are permeating all levels - right up to > the now infamous RadioShack story. And, companies are including > statements of the cleansing acts in their annual reports to the stock > market. > > These short cuts are just that - so short lived. Like a candidate who > had included couple of weeks of French grammar learning as, > “Proficient in French” was stumped when the interviewer started en > Francaise. Perhapse restricting to cheese and wine would have been > more convenient. > > All that, now we have the candidate and the employer in one table, the > interview starts…In a few minutes its all over - the employer has > found some holes in the resume. Often recruiters take the brunt of all > these. > > There are direct and indirect questions about: Did you doctor the > resume? > > I would love to hear from fellow professionals on hilarious and some > serious situations in the lines of above I recall one case, back in the 1990s, when a recruiter modified my resume and gave a copy to one of their clients. It was sufficient to get me the interview but I was forced to point out that what they had was NOT MY resume! I also made a point not to deal with that agency again. I think the client may have made a similar decision. Thereafter, I made a point of requesting that recruiters, employment agencies, etc, NOT alter my resume in any way, without my express permission. At the same time I offered to make any APPROPRIATE changes that they thought might be be beneficial. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 09:55:27 +0000 From: Alex Cockell Subject: Re: Intel Itanium RAS Comparison with X86 Message-ID: P. Sture wrote: > In article <6794vnF2npagmU1@mid.individual.net>, > billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote: >> It's "das Boot", not "das boat". So, anyone remember the movie of >> the >> same name? :-) > Yes, and if you understand it, the German version of "Das Boot" is > better than the English one. Nah - gimme the miniseries any day... but yes, in German 5:1 with English subs - the way I remember in when broadcast on BBC2 back when i saw it first... -- Alex Cockell Reading, Berks, UK alcockell AT eclipse DOT co DOT uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 09:58:12 +0000 From: Alex Cockell Subject: Re: Intel Itanium RAS Comparison with X86 Message-ID: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>> Perkins and Denny's can't touch the quality of the food. >>They are fine for bacon and eggs. > ...but no scrapple! :( Sorry - Brit here who used VAXen when at Nottingham Poly (now a Notes admin) - but what, pray tell, is scrapple? Alex -- Alex Cockell Reading, Berks, UK alcockell AT eclipse DOT co DOT uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 09:22:05 GMT From: Phaeton Subject: Re: Intel Itanium RAS Comparison with X86 Message-ID: <481add3a$1@news.comindico.com.au> Alex Cockell wrote: > VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>>> Perkins and Denny's can't touch the quality of the food. >>> They are fine for bacon and eggs. >> ...but no scrapple! :( > > Sorry - Brit here who used VAXen when at Nottingham Poly (now a Notes > admin) - but what, pray tell, is scrapple? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrapple :-) Csaba ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| http://csabaharangozo.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]: Weinberg's Law : If builders built buildings the way programmers write programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilisation. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 09:09:16 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Intel Itanium RAS Comparison with X86 Message-ID: Alex Cockell wrote: > VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>>> Perkins and Denny's can't touch the quality of the food. >>> They are fine for bacon and eggs. >> ...but no scrapple! :( > > Sorry - Brit here who used VAXen when at Nottingham Poly (now a Notes > admin) - but what, pray tell, is scrapple? > > Alex > Scrapple is a sausage-like substance made from corn meal, fat, meat, and seasonings. I believe it originated with the Pennsylvania Dutch. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 14:08:24 +0100 From: Tom Wade Subject: Re: Odd backup corruption Message-ID: I appreciate all the comments and suggestions. Here are the results of some further investigations. - There are no symbols defined for backup. - I copied a recent backup of the system disk onto a different machine (AlphaServer 1000A 5/333) and booted it. The problem does not occur. - Backup/compare also shows errors (as well as DIFF). The same errors are produced by Backup/Verify $ backup agenda.ps-safecopy agenda.test $ backup/comparse agenda.ps-safecopy agenda.test %BACKUP-E-VERIFYERR, verification error for block 15ofDKA100:[US.TWADE.SCRATCH]AGENDA.TEST;1 %BACKUP-E-VERIFYERR, verification error for block 31 of DKA100:[US.TWADE.SCRATCH]AGENDA.TEST;1 %BACKUP-E-VERIFYERR, verification error for block 47 of DKA100:[US.TWADE.SCRATCH]AGENDA.TEST;1 %BACKUP-E-VERIFYERR, verification error for block 63 of DKA100:[US.TWADE.SCRATCH]AGENDA.TEST;1 %BACKUP-E-VERIFYERR, verification error for block 79 of DKA100:[US.TWADE.SCRATCH]AGENDA.TEST;1 %BACKUP-E-VERIFYERR, verification error for block 95 of DKA100:[US.TWADE.SCRATCH]AGENDA.TEST;1 and so on. - There are no IDE disks on the system. - Replacing the single ended SCSI controller card made no difference. - Analyze /disk shows lots of errors like: %ANALDISK-W-READHEADER, file (210162,0,1) file header read error -SYSTEM-W-ENDOFFILE, end of file %ANALDISK-W-READHEADER, file (210163,0,1) file header read error -SYSTEM-W-ENDOFFILE, end of file %ANALDISK-W-READHEADER, file (210164,0,1) file header read error -SYSTEM-W-ENDOFFILE, end of file %ANALDISK-W-READHEADER, file (210165,0,1) file header read error -SYSTEM-W-ENDOFFILE, end of file %ANALDISK-W-READHEADER, file (210166,0,1) file header read error -SYSTEM-W-ENDOFFILE, end of file %ANALDISK-W-READHEADER, file (210167,0,1) file header read error -SYSTEM-W-ENDOFFILE, end of file %ANALDISK-W-READHEADER, file (210168,0,1) These errors do not occur on the copy of the disk in the new machine. - There are 320 MB of memory in the machine. I get different results from the TEST console command that tests the memory. Most of the time, the pass count increases steadily with large numbers of reads & writes and no errors. Other times the pass number doesn't go beyond 1, and the read/write/error counts are all 0. The next thing I'm going to try is to replace the memory. --------------------------------------------------------- Tom Wade | EMail: tee dot wade at eurokom dot ie EuroKom | Tel: +353 (1) 296-9696 A2, Nutgrove Office Park | Fax: +353 (1) 296-9697 Rathfarnham | Disclaimer: This is not a disclaimer Dublin 14 | Tip: "Friends don't let friends do Unix !" Ireland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 02:36:49 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: OT: Need HTML Help Message-ID: <481ab6ef$0$12339$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> David J Dachtera wrote: > The code I have up is entirely compliant with the older standard. Your initial DTD lines at the top are designed to define what standard of HTML you are using. If your code is compliant with standard X, then make sure the DTD reflects you are using standard X. ------------------------------ Date: 2 May 2008 09:12:43 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: The Minimum You Need to Know About Service Oriented Architecture Message-ID: In article <481A7CC4.9D8AC989@spam.comcast.net>, David J Dachtera writes: > JF Mezei wrote: >> [snip] >> I have NEVER gone back to McDonalds since. It turns out that this was >> corporate policy to not serve cyclists at the drive through. > > Where do other fast-food chains stand on that question? > > If McD's is the only one discriminating, then you have a valid point. > > If their policy is the accepted industry practice, it's rather a > different argument. I don't know about fast food drive-throughs or bikes, but I recall a bank who wouldn't server a customer that walked up to a drive-through window on the notion that it wasn't safe to stand in line with a bunch of cars. Customer's problem was that only the drive though was open when he was off work. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 23:40:10 -0700 (PDT) From: ami.kurtser@gmail.com Subject: Re: Using sftp from OpenVMS to Windows - How to avoid version numbers ? ?? Message-ID: <9edb57bf-ead5-46c7-afdf-c896b672e582@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> On May 1, 8:33 pm, WWWebb wrote: > On May 1, 8:44 am, ami.kurt...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > I use OpenVMS V7.3-2 on Alpha with TCPIP V5.4 ECO 6. > > I use sftp to copy files (my current directory contains: 1.tmp;1 , > > 2.tmp;1 , 3.tmp;1 ). > > when I copy a single file, say: > > put 1.tmp > > It gets the name 1.tmp in the Windows machine. > > But where I copy all the above files, like this: > > put *.* (or even mput *.*) > > It get the names 1.tmp;1 2.tmp;1 3.tmp;1 under Windows, that is: the > > version number gets to be > > part of the file name... > > Is there a way to copy all 3 files without the version number ? > > (I mean: without looping and sending them one by one...) > > The ssh installation in the Windows machine is Bitvise's WinSSHD 4.26 > > > Thans, > > Ami. > > You need to define the following logical: > > "TCPIP$FTP_NO_VERSION" = "1" > > Hope this helps, > > WWWebb Hi WWWebb, Thanks for the answer, but it didn't work: $ Define/system TCPIP$FTP_NO_VERSION 1 $ sftp mywindow sftp> put *.* still moves 1.tmp;1 etc. Maybe this option applies to ftp only, but not to Sftp... Anyway, thanks for the good will ! Ami ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 02:02:36 -0700 (PDT) From: ami.kurtser@gmail.com Subject: Re: Using sftp from OpenVMS to Windows - How to avoid version numbers ? ?? Message-ID: <1b8d187c-8340-4585-a666-9c9f61c4c190@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> On May 1, 5:57 pm, s...@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) wrote: > From: ami.kurt...@gmail.com > > > I use OpenVMS V7.3-2 on Alpha with TCPIP V5.4 ECO 6. > > Same here. > > > [...] > > put *.* (or even mput *.*) > > It get the names 1.tmp;1 2.tmp;1 3.tmp;1 under Windows, that is: the > > version number gets to be > > part of the file name... > > Is there a way to copy all 3 files without the version number ? > > (I mean: without looping and sending them one by one...) > > I don't see one. "put *.*;" (or "put *.*;0") even puts all versions > of a file: > > sftp> put ab1.*; > AB1.TXT;2 | 452B | 0.4 kB/s | TOC: 00:00:01 | 100% > AB1.TXT;1 | 552B | 0.5 kB/s | TOC: 00:00:01 | 100% > > I didn't gain anything by adding quotation marks, either. (I can only > imagine how this stuff was implemented.) > > I assume that someone did a near-minimal-effort port of some UNIX > code to VMS, and this is the result. If you're paying for software > support, you could try complaining to HP. > > > The ssh installation in the Windows machine is Bitvise's WinSSHD 4.26 > > Works the same way with an HP-UX destination (or, probably, > anything). > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Steven M. Schweda sms@antinode-org > 382 South Warwick Street (+1) 651-699-9818 > Saint Paul MN 55105-2547 Hello all, Thanks for all your responses. 1. To zip is not an option for me. 2. The put command in sftp (e.g. put source target) refers to the "source target" string as a list of files... 3. The logical that WWWeb suggested does not seem to change sftp's behavior. I'll be happy to get another solution. Thanks again, Ami ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 04:07:12 -0700 (PDT) From: privet drug Subject: Re: V8.3-1H1 anyone? Message-ID: <28ee82e2-9069-4d28-b141-537d2df78f12@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> > I'd like to ask for a copy/download. You're not one. If you or anyone else can provide me 'OpenVMS I64 DVD' iso, that works on HP rx2600, i'll be glad. I can provide ftp, or we can use eDonkey or torrent or other web/mail service. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 08:39:31 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: VAX 6310 Free to a good home Message-ID: Michael Austin wrote: > kiwi wrote: >> San Jose. Pick it up and its yours. VMS 5.5-2. Working order. >> > > > Boy, talking about a heater... and just try and move it into your > basement... :) Just try picking it up without a forklift! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:11:48 -0700 (PDT) From: BaxterD@tessco.com Subject: Re: VAX 6310 Free to a good home Message-ID: <30ff7691-73bd-44c9-a421-27b699999ce2@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com> On May 2, 8:39=A0am, "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > Michael Austin wrote: > > kiwi wrote: > >> San Jose. Pick it up and its yours. VMS 5.5-2. Working order. > > > Boy, talking about a heater... and just try and move it into your > > basement... :) > > Just try picking it up without a forklift! Would make a nice closet/Changing Rm for a small apartment Dave ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.245 ************************