INFO-VAX Thu, 20 Dec 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 695 Contents: Re: ES45 upgrade question Re: ES45 upgrade question OpenVMS web site file move to ftp.hp.com server OT: News RE: DEC's UN*X equivalent to Dave Cutler Pay Per Click is a Waste of TIME... Re: quick question Re: quick question Re: quick question Volume label. Re: Volume label. Re: Volume label. Re: Why can't I use an IA64 as a boot server for an Alpha? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:52:06 -0500 From: John Reagan Subject: Re: ES45 upgrade question Message-ID: FrankS wrote: > Does anybody know whether an ES45 68/1000 can be upgraded to the > 68/1250 cpu modules? Is it just a matter of taking out the old cpu > and popping in the new ones, or is there a motherboard change? > > Any pointers to HP/Compaq reference documents would be very much > appreciated. I *think* it is just swapping the CPU modules. Do you have the latest SRM firmware? I swapped CPU modules in my ES45 last year. I upgraded the SRM firmware and swapped the CPU modules only. -- John Reagan OpenVMS Pascal/Macro-32/COBOL Project Leader Hewlett-Packard Company ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:34:26 -0800 (PST) From: FrankS Subject: Re: ES45 upgrade question Message-ID: On Dec 19, 1:52 pm, John Reagan wrote: > I *think* it is just swapping the CPU modules. Do you have the latest > SRM firmware? > I swapped CPU modules in my ES45 last year. I upgraded the SRM firmware > and swapped the CPU modules only. Yeah, the assumption is that the firmware would be updated, and all other configuration issues were addressed. I can't find an ES45 document that says you can pull the 1ghz modules and replace them with 1.25ghz modules. I can't find anything that says you *CAN'T* do that either, but I'd prefer to have some sort of official blessing on the operation. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:48:58 -0500 From: "warren sander" Subject: OpenVMS web site file move to ftp.hp.com server Message-ID: I'm in the process of moving all the 'big' files from the OpenVMS web server to a new home on ftp.hp.com/pub/openvms I'm doing this for a number of reasons, but for you all it will make the downloads faster because ftp is a faster more efficient protocol than http is for large files. However, in doing this move I'm finding all sorts of old crufty stuff and I'm have loads of fun removing it and recoding to point to the ftp server. If you find a download for something is broken please send me an email warren'dot'sander'at'hp'dot'com and let me know what page you found the broken link on. Most of the files you should be able to find at ftp.hp.com/pub/openvms in a subdirectory (you should be able to figure out which one and if not let me also know). There are a couple of directories that you won't be able to do directories of and that is because we don't want you doing directories in those directories. However there shouldn't be any 'public' software located there when I am finished. -warren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:29:51 -0600 From: David J Dachtera Subject: OT: News RE: DEC's UN*X equivalent to Dave Cutler Message-ID: <4769E1AF.C9806C00@spam.comcast.net> Found this in the Linux Journal while looking for an updated VI Reference card: http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1005779 Long story short: the "father" of DU is gravely ill. I figured some here would want to know. David J Dachtera DJE Systems ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:53:58 -0800 (PST) From: e142xkx7 Subject: Pay Per Click is a Waste of TIME... Message-ID: <4ea0f3be-030a-41b8-a84e-9975fb0b2f97@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> http://getpaidforeveryvistor.googlepages.com/home is the new way for publishers to get paid off per visitor on there website... So every visitor you make money not per click. And now become an affiliate while there is still time.. Decide for yourself>>> http://getpaidforeveryvistor.googlepages.com/home ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:45:54 +1100 From: Phaeton Subject: Re: quick question Message-ID: <4769755c$1_3@news.chariot.net.au> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article <07121900023117_202647DE@antinode.org>, sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) writes: >> >> From: Sue >> >>> Can somone tell me what M15 is and what it has to do with VMS. >> It's MI5, not M15. Yes. Nothing. >> >>> I am sorry I just do not know. >> http://www.mi5.gov.uk/ >> >> When you see junk like this posted to multiple groups ("X-Newsgroups: >> sci.nonlinear,soc.genealogy.britain,aus.ads.forsale.computers.new, >> brasil.noticias,comp.os.vms"), it's safe to assume that it's junk. > > Multiple? Search! This idiot SPAMmed this crap to nearly EVERY newsgroup. > > > >>> X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com >> From: "Newsdemon Abuse" >> >>> We have received a large number of complaints regarding one of our >>> former customers flooding various newsgroups with "MI5 Persecution" >>> posts. We have removed this customer from our active database and he >>> will no longer be allowed to use our servers. >>> >>> We appreciate your role in helping us to locate this user. >> But I doubt that it'll stop any time soon. > > It's good to know that this may cease for a while! > > Now if somebody could identify the moron posting the stupid floods to > comp.sys.mac.system so that people could pummel him heavy club, that > would be great too! To quote a recent post from other newsgroups about this spammer : Thanks for the offer to help us out in this very frustrating quest. The spewer makes no bones about his identity as he continues to flood the rec.radio.amateur.policy news group. Just yesterday, he posted 400 similar messages to rec.radio.amateur.misc and rec.radio.amateur.policy, and then bragged about it at http://khkb9rqz.blogspot.com. His name is Mark Morgan - amateur call kb9rqz - and he resides in Chassell, MI. His ISP is HughesNet (direcpc), and his NSP of choice is Teranews (nntpserver.com). Teranews is located in Osceola, IN and shares the same building and telephone numbers as Nibble Net. Teranews has a black hole into which all emailed and surface mailed complaints are tossed. They also rudely reject telephone calls. Their abuse address is abuse@teranews.com. Mr. Morgan is also in ongoing violation of the terms and conditions which HughesNet has published at http://tinyurl.com/2o7ppq, but HughesNet also ignores complaints to their abuse department (which was once listed as ab...@hughes.com, but which can no longer be found in the whois data bases. Attempts to query whois information for hughesnet.com result in server rejection messages). People have surface mailed HughesNet but have received no response. Mr. Morgan has issues and does not operate under the same set of motivations and constraints that guide other people. I am convinced that the only way to put a stop to his floods is to have his Usenet access removed. As to illegal behavior, Mr. Morgan has already reported an uninvolved amateur radio operator to child protection services in both the states of Pennsylvania and Florida as a suspected child molester. Mr. Morgan did so because he incorrectly identified one of his protagonists as that uninvolved individual. Mr. Morgan is also suspected of authoring anonymously emailed death threats (he has a unique writing style which is hard to disguise - see his web site for examples). Sorry for the long post, but this is a longstanding and pernicious situation. The news group rec.radio.amateur.moderated was created largely to get away from Mr. Morgan's floods, but that does not solve the original problem of the destruction of two once useful news groups. Even worse, Mr Morgan has now been branching out to formely unmolested news groups and has begun posting his spews there. He is basically hiding behind two rogue service providers, and has so far been untouchable. It is extremely frustrating. P.S. Expect him to join this thread and to claim that he is being discriminated against because of his lifestyle. According to him, that ploy has worked wonderfully well with HughesNet, and he brags that he will never be ToSed by them. ----------------------------------------- So the spammer is well-known, you can visit his website mentioned in the post. Cheers, Csaba ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| http://csabaharangozo.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]: Rhode's Corollary to Hoare's Law : Inside every complex and unworkable program is a useful routine struggling to be free. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:33:40 GMT From: John Santos Subject: Re: quick question Message-ID: In article , Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com says... > Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > > > Sue wrote: > > > >> Can somone tell me what M15 is and what it has to do with VMS. I am > >> sorry I just do not know. > >> sue > > > > It's MI5 not M15. It's the British Intelligence Agency. You might > > compare it with the CIA. > > > > It has nothing to do with VMS ... > > Actually, MI5 most definitely was a VMS site at least in the 1980s. > I have no idea what they use now, but it would not surprise me if > they still use VMS. > > I guess I've just signed my own death-warrant by saying this ;-) > > Hold on, there's someone knocking at the door ... > In the movie "Johnny English", Rowan Atkinson (Black Adder, Mr. Bean) plays a low-level British intelligence agent who is suddenly promoted after all the other agents (attending a wedding or other event that Johnny wasn't invited to) get blown up or poisoned or something and he's the only one left. There's one scene set in an office at MI-5 (MI-6?) prominently featuring a book case full of the VMS Blue Wall. I paused it on my Tivo to be sure. Definitely the VMS Doc set. So not just the US TLA's, but the Brit TLPDA's (Two Letters Plus a Digit Agencies) use VMS... :-) -- John ------------------------------ Date: 19 Dec 2007 15:30:54 -0600 From: kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.mars (Bob Kaplow) Subject: Re: quick question Message-ID: In article <0ed99f20-0317-41b8-bd7d-b2dffdbf5bee@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, PacoLinux writes: > If you are talking about M5, is a kind of emulator, and can emulate > sort of ALPHA: The M-5 computer or the M-5 multitronic unit was created by Doctor Richard Daystrom. It utilized very sophisticated technology, probably similar to the Human neural network, and much more sophisticated than the duotronic computer commonly in use. According to Dr. Daystrom, the computer could think and reason like a Human. He had used his own memory engrams as a model for the computer. Models M-1 through M-4 had been total failures. http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/M5 -- Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://www.nira-rocketry.org/Document/Phantom4000.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Sir, if I was building a weapon of mass destruction, you wouldn't be able to find it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:12:09 -0500 From: Chuck Aaron Subject: Volume label. Message-ID: I have a ds10 with 2 disks. One is named alphasys which is the system disk and one named userdisk (which equates to user$disk). Is there a way to add an alias name to user$disk so that when an application wants to access web$disk it will access the user$disk? Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:37:28 -0800 (PST) From: FrankS Subject: Re: Volume label. Message-ID: On Dec 19, 2:12 pm, Chuck Aaron wrote: > I have a ds10 with 2 disks. One is named alphasys which is the > system disk and one named userdisk (which equates to user$disk). > Is there a way to add an alias name to user$disk so that when > an application wants to access web$disk it will access the > user$disk? > > Thanks in advance. Issue the following command ... $ SHOW LOGICAL /FULL USER$DISK If it says the logical is system-wide, and exec mode (which it should be) then you can issue a ... $ DEFINE /SYSTEM /EXEC WEB$DISK USER$DISK: which will do the mapping you're asking for. You would also add the same $DEFINE command to either the SYS$MANAGER:SYLOGICALS.COM or SYS $MANAGER:SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM procedure. ------------------------------ Date: 19 Dec 2007 15:30:34 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Volume label. Message-ID: In article , Chuck Aaron writes: > I have a ds10 with 2 disks. One is named alphasys which is the > system disk and one named userdisk (which equates to user$disk). > Is there a way to add an alias name to user$disk so that when > an application wants to access web$disk it will access the > user$disk? You need to study up on logical names. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:50:32 GMT From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: Re: Why can't I use an IA64 as a boot server for an Alpha? Message-ID: <476A10B8.9070401@spammers.are.scum> Robert Deininger wrote: > > Is this feature needed? Probably not. As someone else noted I could probably get it to work (and be "supported") by using DECNET phase IV instead of LANCP. It also strikes me as something fairly unlikely to break accidentally - most of the component pieces of what I'm doing need to be there for satellites of any architecture to work. I'm just using an odd combination of those bits. The worst case scenario is that it breaks and I need to use the local ATA drive as a system disk. This will have a performance penalty but probably not a fatal one. If it was I could swap in a different system and use a SCSI system disk (I can't do this on the DS10L because I'm using the lone PCI slot for a DEGPA to get Gbit ethernet). > VMS planners didn't think so. If folks need > it, they should let VMS business managers know about their needs. > There's plenty of time before the next release to adjust the feature set. > I'm probably an atypical customer, being in the education sector. Because all the nifty bits of VMS are available to me cheaply I tend to use lots of them ( clusters, shadowing, etc ) - but I don't have much money to offer HP and I realize they need to focus first on the needs of the deep pocketed customers - I'm happy to take whatever is available. > We have more stuff on our to-do lists than we can implement and test for > the next release. That would be true if VMS had twice its current > budget. We have to pick and choose what projects to do. Please understand I'm not complaining. I only started this thread to share my experiences (in case anyone else is thinking of doing the same thing) and to see if anyone had any hints on what to watch out for (eg "I tried that and xxxx broke"). ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.695 ************************