INFO-VAX Tue, 15 May 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 265 Contents: Re: Anyone know why the Alpha market is so so quiet? RE: Anyone know why the Alpha market is so so quiet? IP Clusters and security MicroVAX with KDA50, RQDX3 and KFQSA configuration ?? Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 May Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 May 22 M Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 May 22Ma Re: Shouldn't we be helping HP ? Re: Shouldn't we be helping HP ? Re: Sun Studio 11 (Solaris IDE) Re: SYSMAN problem Using DCE Ldapmodify from VMS 8.3? Re: VMS Audio Update - Episode #9 available... Re: VMS Audio Update - Episode #9 available... Re: VMS Audio Update - Episode #9 available... Re: VMS Audio Update - Episode #9 available... Re: VT200 emulation under Mac OS X Re: VT200 emulation under Mac OS X ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:03:08 -0400 From: "John Smith" Subject: Re: Anyone know why the Alpha market is so so quiet? Message-ID: <10d6d$4648c076$cef8b3a6$29370@TEKSAVVY.COM-Free> Main, Kerry wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Repacholi [mailto:prep@prep.synonet.com] >> Sent: May 11, 2007 8:09 AM >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com >> Subject: Re: Anyone know why the Alpha market is so so quiet? >> >> jbigboote writes: >> >>> On May 9, 10:57 am, JF Mezei wrote: >>>> Larry Kilgallen wrote: >>> ... >> >>>> Also, do not forget that Cerner has a deal where cerner customers >>>> can contiune to purchase Alpha systems for the foreseable future. >> >>> Too bad Cerner decided to drop VMS and replace it with HP-UX. If I'm >>> an existing Cerner client looking to port from VMS, and my choices >>> are AIX or HP-UX, why would I choose HP-UX? Maybe because I already >>> have Alpha servers, which can run HP-UX, but sooner or later you'll >>> have to move to Itanium, and then you'll have to port again, no? >>> And if I'm going to buy new hardware, I might as well go with IBM, >>> who for better or worse have done fairly well with AIX and the POWER >>> platform, and appear poised to continue doing so for the foreseeable >>> future. I administer both AIX and VMS systems, and I can say that in >>> the last 18 or so months getting support for VMS software and Alpha >>> hardware has become noticeably more irksome. >> >> And if you have P5s now, you can plug in P6 4.5Ghz CPUs in a few >> weeks to >> upgrade them. >> >> So where is the itanic that will outperform them? Or deliver twice >> the performance of the Alpha come to think of it. > > Lets get beyond this performance thing. Yes, it is important in some > areas, but look at it from the typical CIO perspective looking across > all their servers. > > The question most CIO's have today for vendors today is "when the > majority of my servers are running at 10 to 20% utilization (and > that's being kind since most Wintel servers are running at less than > 10%), why would we want to decrease this utilization even further > overall?" > > With respect to OpenVMS vs Wintel, the typical comparison is one app > on Wintel vs one app on OpenVMS. However, what happens when you > compare 10 apps to be consolidated vs 10 apps on OpenVMS? > > Know any Cust's who would do App stacking on Wintel? Not likely. > Hence, you end up with 10 Wintel OS images to manage, license, > monitor etc. With OpenVMS, you do not have the technical and cultural > issues with App stacking as you do with Wintel/Linux. And OS image > numbers are directly related to FTE counts - by far the biggest > component of any IT budget. > > Based on the typical current state priorities one typically hears from > CIO's today, it is usually along the lines of: > > - 60+% App / DB concerns > - 30+% OS related (since app often takes advantage of and is > integrated with OS features) > - 10-% HW (and if OS hides issues with HW, and new HW can outperform > current HW - regardless of whether its best on the block, then this > concern becomes even less. Sun's server performance record in the past > is a great example of this) All true, but precious few current VMS customers/ISV's believe that HP is serious about the long-term future of VMS, never-mind prospective customers. So Kerry, what's the count of new-to-VMS customers this year? Zero or one? Where are the 'big wins' for VMS? Or are the 'big wins" now being viewed as simply retaining a customer? Oh, and as to Sun.....they still have a software portfolio of their own, and an ISV base for Solaris probably a couple orders of magnitude larger than that for VMS. And that sways a LOT of sales. -- OpenVMS - The never-advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 00:40:18 -0400 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: Anyone know why the Alpha market is so so quiet? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: John Smith [mailto:a@nonymous.com] > Sent: May 14, 2007 4:03 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Re: Anyone know why the Alpha market is so so quiet? >=20 [snip...] > > With respect to OpenVMS vs Wintel, the typical comparison is one app > > on Wintel vs one app on OpenVMS. However, what happens when you > > compare 10 apps to be consolidated vs 10 apps on OpenVMS? > > > > Know any Cust's who would do App stacking on Wintel? Not likely. > > Hence, you end up with 10 Wintel OS images to manage, license, > > monitor etc. With OpenVMS, you do not have the technical and > cultural > > issues with App stacking as you do with Wintel/Linux. And OS image > > numbers are directly related to FTE counts - by far the biggest > > component of any IT budget. > > > > Based on the typical current state priorities one typically hears > from > > CIO's today, it is usually along the lines of: > > > > - 60+% App / DB concerns > > - 30+% OS related (since app often takes advantage of and is > > integrated with OS features) > > - 10-% HW (and if OS hides issues with HW, and new HW can outperform > > current HW - regardless of whether its best on the block, then this > > concern becomes even less. Sun's server performance record in the > past > > is a great example of this) >=20 >=20 > All true, but precious few current VMS customers/ISV's believe that HP > is > serious about the long-term future of VMS, never-mind prospective > customers. >=20 > So Kerry, what's the count of new-to-VMS customers this year? Zero or > one? > Where are the 'big wins' for VMS? Or are the 'big wins" now being > viewed as > simply retaining a customer? >=20 > Oh, and as to Sun.....they still have a software portfolio of their > own, and > an ISV base for Solaris probably a couple orders of magnitude larger > than > that for VMS. And that sways a LOT of sales. >=20 Phuleeease .. I will not say OpenVMS could not be marketed a tad better, but lets not start putting Sun/Solaris on some type of platter here.=20 I work a great these days on large multi-platform, multi-vendor IT and DC consolidation engagements and rightfully or wrongly, almost every med-large DC Cust I run into with Solaris systems has the following strategy: - keep Solaris on SPARC for bigger Apps for now, but look at moving these to Linux at some point in the future. - move all other low-med Solaris apps to Linux. So, they are certainly not without their big issues these days .. Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:55:35 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: IP Clusters and security Message-ID: <3a3d8$4648f710$cef8887a$17814@TEKSAVVY.COM> Doc wrote: > The sooner you have that the better. Hobbyists can start having > competitions over who can form the largest geographical cluster. :) Shirley, we will also test the boundaries of the number of nodes permitted in a cluster. :-) There are however some issues to contend with. One might not want to have all his disks available to all the hobbyists. Remember that "SYSTEM" on any node in the cluster can access any/all data in the cluster. Perhaps what is needed is a cluster of clusters, where each cluster defines what resources the supercluster has access to. Right now, clusters are protected by physical boundary of an ethernet and physical cables to disk drives. But once you open it up to IP, it will open a whole can of worms in terms of hackers trying to join a cluster. If hackers get hodl of cluster_authorize.dat, they can then join the cluster and have access to all the data on any disk. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 20:07:58 -0700 From: Bob Armstrong Subject: MicroVAX with KDA50, RQDX3 and KFQSA configuration ?? Message-ID: <1179198477.918196.148720@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> I have a MicroVAX-3900 system that already has a KDA50 (CSR 772150 - primary MSCP controller) and a RQDX3 (secondary MSCP - CSR 760334) and I want to add a KFQSA DSSI controller with five RFxx drives (yes, it's a big system :-). The KFQSA is a bit strange - it looks like it needs a CSR address for the card itself, which is set by the DIP switches on the card. Then the KFQSA emulates an independent MSCP controller, each with its own CSR, for every DSSI drive, and these CSR addresses are set by talking directly to the card with MDM and/or the SET HOST /UQSSP / MAINTENANCE /SERVICE command. It's most convenient if the KDA50 remains the primary MSCP controller, and since the KFQSA only supports two CSR addresses for the card itself, I guess it'll have to get the secondary address at 760334 and the RQDX3 will have to move to the tertiary address. So I'll have something like KDA50 772150 (primary, drives DUA0, 1, etc...) KFQSA 760334 (secondary) RQDX3 760340 (tertiary, drives DUC0, DUC1, etc...) DSSI drive #1 760344 (will VMS call this DIA0?) DSSI drive #2 760350 (DIA1?) DSSI drive #3 760354 ... ... etc ... Is this the right way to set it up? Is there a limit on the number of MSCP controllers that VMS will support? Thanks, Bob Armstrong ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:57:54 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 May Message-ID: <3c9c8$4648f79b$cef8887a$17814@TEKSAVVY.COM> Doc wrote: > You don't remember correctly. The robots in Blade runner expired at 30. I recall specifically harrison ford telling some robots that they could not predict when exactly they would shutdown. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 22:48:34 GMT From: Doc Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote in news:eb849$46488d11 $cef8887a$6638@TEKSAVVY.COM: > William Webb wrote: >> I'm not so sure that Blade Runner is such a good selection. >> Remember, OpenVMS turns 30 this year... > > > Blade Runner != Logan's Run. > > Blade Runner was shot in HongKong, Logan's Run was shot in a newly built > shopping centre in Texas if I remember correctly. > > > Logan's Run is the one where a LED on people's hands lights up when they > reach 30 years of age and they must be disposed of. > > Blade Runner is about robots that get killed when they outlast their > programmed lifetime/warrantee. (if I remember correctly). You don't remember correctly. The robots in Blade runner expired at 30. This detail wasn't particularly obvious in the original version of the movie. I suggest you go buy "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", and as much other PKD as you can get your hands on. Doc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 00:27:39 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Message-ID: In article , Doc writes: >JF Mezei wrote in news:eb849$46488d11 >$cef8887a$6638@TEKSAVVY.COM: > >> William Webb wrote: >>> I'm not so sure that Blade Runner is such a good selection. >>> Remember, OpenVMS turns 30 this year... >> >> >> Blade Runner != Logan's Run. >> >> Blade Runner was shot in HongKong, Logan's Run was shot in a newly >built >> shopping centre in Texas if I remember correctly. >> >> >> Logan's Run is the one where a LED on people's hands lights up when >they >> reach 30 years of age and they must be disposed of. >> >> Blade Runner is about robots that get killed when they outlast their >> programmed lifetime/warrantee. (if I remember correctly). > >You don't remember correctly. The robots in Blade runner expired at 30. >This detail wasn't particularly obvious in the original version of the >movie. > >I suggest you go buy "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", and as much >other PKD as you can get your hands on. > Sorry in Blade Runner the lifetime of the Nexus-6 replicants was only 4 years. See for instance http://www.mala.bc.ca/~soules/medi402/leanne/rachel.htm and http://scribble.com/uwi/br/br-faq.html David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University > >Doc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 06:45:33 +0200 From: "Martin Vorlaender" Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Message-ID: Doc wrote: > JF Mezei wrote: >> William Webb wrote: >>> I'm not so sure that Blade Runner is such a good selection. >>> Remember, OpenVMS turns 30 this year... >> >> Blade Runner !=3D Logan's Run. [...] >> Logan's Run is the one where a LED on people's hands lights up when >> they reach 30 years of age and they must be disposed of. >> >> Blade Runner is about robots that get killed when they outlast their >> programmed lifetime/warrantee. (if I remember correctly). > > You don't remember correctly. The robots in Blade runner expired at 30= . > This detail wasn't particularly obvious in the original version of the= > movie. I don't remember exactly whether the expiration date was 30 or 4 years, but wasn't BladeRunner sent on a hunt for a robot that *didn't* expire? I really have to read that book/watch that movie again... cu, Martin -- = One OS to rule them all | Martin Vorlaender | OpenVMS rules! One OS to find them | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de One OS to bring them all | http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martin= v/ And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin.vorlaender@t-online.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:24:07 -0400 From: "William Webb" Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Message-ID: <8660a3a10705141624t61579a4x5522b30f87f2640a@mail.gmail.com> On 14 May 2007 22:48:34 GMT, Doc wrote: > JF Mezei wrote in news:eb849$46488d11 > $cef8887a$6638@TEKSAVVY.COM: > > > William Webb wrote: > >> I'm not so sure that Blade Runner is such a good selection. > >> Remember, OpenVMS turns 30 this year... > > > > > > Blade Runner != Logan's Run. > > > > Blade Runner was shot in HongKong, Logan's Run was shot in a newly > built > > shopping centre in Texas if I remember correctly. > > > > > > Logan's Run is the one where a LED on people's hands lights up when > they > > reach 30 years of age and they must be disposed of. > > > > Blade Runner is about robots that get killed when they outlast their > > programmed lifetime/warrantee. (if I remember correctly). > > You don't remember correctly. The robots in Blade runner expired at 30. > This detail wasn't particularly obvious in the original version of the > movie. > > I suggest you go buy "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", and as much > other PKD as you can get your hands on. > > > Doc. > Hmmm. Perhaps I *wasn't* confused. *NOW* I'm confused. WWWebb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:40:15 -0700 From: DeanW Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 May 22 M Message-ID: <3f119ada0705140940p1ce83782ub4aeecc3babf6391@mail.gmail.com> On 5/14/07, JF Mezei wrote: > William Webb wrote: > > I'm not so sure that Blade Runner is such a good selection. > > Remember, OpenVMS turns 30 this year... > > Blade Runner != Logan's Run. The movie "Blade Runner' != 'BladeRunner'. The latter is a book by Alan E. Nourse, about a society that embraces Eugenics as a solution to the deterorating gene pool (caused by medicine allowing people with bad genes living long enough to breed, where before they would die out) . I'd be seriously surprised to see that made into a movie... How "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" got retitled "Blade Runner" has always confused me. -- Dean Woodward =o&o dean.woodward@gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 01:44:01 GMT From: John Santos Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 May 22Ma Message-ID: Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > Chris Scheers wrote: > >> FredK wrote: >> >>> wrote in message >>> news:OF59586CA8.463C3AC7-ON852572D8.004E495E-852572D8.004E875D@metso.com... >>> >>> >>>> Wasn't "Blade Runner" based on a short story by Philip K. Dick, "Do >>>> Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" >>>> ..and TV has nothing to do with it AFAICS. >>>> >>> >>> It was a novel. My father belonged to the Doubleday Science Fiction >>> Bookclub when I was a kid (I get to blame reading science fiction on >>> him). It was first published by Doubleday in 1968. It was an >>> expanded version of the short story The Little Black Box (Worlds of >>> Tomorrow, August 1964). >> >> >> >> I think Phillip K. Dick is underrated. Read whatever you can find of >> his. His stuff is full of ideas, but be warned, it is usually very dark. >> >> I find it surprising how much of his stuff has been made into movies. >> 25 years after his death, his stories are still being made into movies. >> >> >>> Good book. It was't say quite up to the level of Stand on Zanzibar >>> (John Brunner, also Doubleday 1968) which I read the same year. >>> >>> Or one I always wondered why it never made it to the movies - >>> Shockwave Rider (Brunner, 1975) - which actually coined the term >>> computer "worm" and pretty much imagined the internet (but believed >>> that the phone company would actually create it). Another I always >>> thought would be made into a movie was the Adolescence of P1 (1977, >>> Tom Ryan). Or Arthur C Clarke's classic Childhoods End (1953). Or >>> anything by Heinlein after about 1960 (they were fun, but Star Ship >>> Troopers, 1959 might as well be E.E. Doc Smith). >> >> >> >> I enjoyed "The Adolescence of P1", but I thought it was a bit simplistic. >> >> I think a more likely movie candidate would be "The Moon is a Harsh >> Mistress", because it is from Heinlein and the movie could have lots >> of explosions. > > > Who would you cast as "Mike"? Majel Barrett? :-) -- John Santos Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539 ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 17:07:32 -0700 From: AEF Subject: Re: Shouldn't we be helping HP ? Message-ID: <1179187652.126231.146270@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> On May 11, 5:34 pm, Ian Miller wrote: > On May 11, 10:24 pm, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob > > Koehler) wrote: > > Quality softwatre is always worth fighting for, no matter how many > > battles are lost along the way. > > Exactly. I do what I do because I have not lost hope and VMS is worth > fighting for. Not to worry!!! I finally wrote Mr. Hurd a letter. Snail mail. VMS should be back on the front burner in no time! OK, back to reality. Yeah, you can all laugh at my effort, but at least I won't be kicking myself later that I should at least have tried. And it didn't take long. Probably under an hour. It's a short (only 1 page!), friendly letter that gets right to the point. He should have received it by now -- I sent it Sunday evening a week ago. If VMS does turn around, you can thank me! :-) If it doesn't -- well -- too bad. AEF ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:32:58 -0500 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: Shouldn't we be helping HP ? Message-ID: <46491BDA.6806D862@spam.comcast.net> AEF wrote: > > On May 11, 5:34 pm, Ian Miller wrote: > > On May 11, 10:24 pm, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob > > > > Koehler) wrote: > > > Quality softwatre is always worth fighting for, no matter how many > > > battles are lost along the way. > > > > Exactly. I do what I do because I have not lost hope and VMS is worth > > fighting for. > > Not to worry!!! I finally wrote Mr. Hurd a letter. Snail mail. VMS > should be back on the front burner in no time! > > OK, back to reality. Yeah, you can all laugh at my effort, but at > least I won't be kicking myself later that I should at least have > tried. And it didn't take long. Probably under an hour. It's a short > (only 1 page!), friendly letter that gets right to the point. He > should have received it by now -- I sent it Sunday evening a week ago. > > If VMS does turn around, you can thank me! :-) If it doesn't -- well > -- too bad. I've had HP folks call me at work in response to e-mails where I either directly addressed or Bcc'd Mark Hurd, Ann Livermore, etc. They so much as told me they were calling because Mark Hurd saw my e-mail. FWIW... -- David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems http://www.djesys.com/ Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:12:39 -0400 From: "John Smith" Subject: Re: Sun Studio 11 (Solaris IDE) Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote: > John Smith wrote: >> Probably about 0.25 Gorhams I should think (factored for decay, rot, >> and other neglect by ComHPaQ). > > BTW, in case you didn't know, Mr Gorham is no longer with HP, he left > apparently on his own to greener pastures. Ann McQuaid is now the VMS > manager (or whatever the title of the top VMS-specific person is). > > Also, Mr Marcello is also no longer with HP. Mr Hurd cleaned up many > management positions and Marcello was part of the cleanup. > > At the february decus meeting in Toronto, Sue made the point of saying > that VMS was under new management (refering to the new guy who took > over from marcello, and this new guy is Ann McQuaid's boss). And this > was said in a very positive way. > > Since then, however, the news haven't been that great. So I am not > sure if the new management really intend to fight to give VMS a > chance. Pushing Cerner to HP-UX is about the same magnitude as > Palmer's "affinity" programme, especially since medical was one of > VMS's last true niches. > > (I say this since you (Mr "Smith") have been away for some time.) JF, I knew about the changes, but like all 'constants' named after an individual (Raleigh, Avogadro, Mach, etc....) they survive the departure of their namesake. Besides, what number is the installed base at now? Last number we knew was 1 Gorham. I'm merely extrapolating from that. -- OpenVMS - The never-advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 22:28:50 GMT From: Doc Subject: Re: SYSMAN problem Message-ID: "news.hp.com" wrote in news:f2a0o4$i12$1 @usenet01.boi.hp.com: > It is to meet needs of customers like these that there is a project > underway in OpenVMS Engineering (and noted in the OpenVMS Roadmap) to > allow SCS communications over IP as an additional OpenVMS cluster > interconnect option. The sooner you have that the better. Hobbyists can start having competitions over who can form the largest geographical cluster. :) Doc. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 14:27:39 -0700 From: daryljones@att.net Subject: Using DCE Ldapmodify from VMS 8.3? Message-ID: <1179178058.948307.95370@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Hello Everyone, I am having problems using ldapmodify from a VMS 8.3 system to an linux server that has the LDAP directory. I was able to get the LDAPSEARCH to work but having been able to get the Ldapmodify to work. Has anyone been able to get it to work from a VMS syste? Regards, Daryl Jones ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 14:51:50 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: VMS Audio Update - Episode #9 available... Message-ID: Ian Miller wrote: > Downloads: over 800 so far :-) > > Feedback: 1 :-( Yeah, but consider that the next person to leave some feedback will result in your feedback growing by 100% ! :-) Also, if we had left some feedback for previous episodes, and it is the same type of comments for this episode, must we leave feedback again ? ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 13:04:47 -0700 From: Ian Miller Subject: Re: VMS Audio Update - Episode #9 available... Message-ID: <1179173087.921367.73810@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> If the hundreds of people who have not commented so far sent some feedback that would be good or you may have an opinion of an item in a particular episode e.g a response to Colin's item in episode #9 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:13:49 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: VMS Audio Update - Episode #9 available... Message-ID: Ok, general comments, more about content than the audio file itself. Interesting that they consider that when an existing customer buys some IA64 box, it is considered a "new win". And the fact that IA64 sales for VMS grew 77% is an indication that sales are still quite low. Over the various episodes, there has been talk about something called "T4 collector". I still don't know what that gizmo does in life. It was good to hear from Ann McQuaid. Finding out more about who is at the helm of the sinking^H^H^H^H^H^H^H ship is always helpful. No mention of why is telling Cerner to port to HP-UX instead of VMS. Good to know that HP will continue to refurbish Alphas and make those available through resellers. It would have been helpful to just mention who the two resellers are. Having to navigate the HP web site to find this info is bound to be a daunting expedition worthy of an Indianna Jones motion picture. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 14:44:15 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: VMS Audio Update - Episode #9 available... Message-ID: On Mon, 14 May 2007 14:13:49 -0700, JF Mezei = wrote: > Ok, general comments, more about content than the audio file itself. > > Interesting that they consider that when an existing customer buys som= e = > IA64 box, it is considered a "new win". > > And the fact that IA64 sales for VMS grew 77% is an indication that = > sales are still quite low. So this is an excercise to solve a Diophantine equation So they went from 9 sales to 16, 16 -9 /9 =3D 77% or 18 -> 32 27 -> 48 ... solution is left as an excercise to the reader > > > Over the various episodes, there has been talk about something called = = > "T4 collector". I still don't know what that gizmo does in life. > > It was good to hear from Ann McQuaid. Finding out more about who is at= = > the helm of the sinking^H^H^H^H^H^H^H ship is always helpful. No menti= on = > of why is telling Cerner to port to HP-UX instead of VMS. > > Good to know that HP will continue to refurbish Alphas and make those = = > available through resellers. It would have been helpful to just mentio= n = > who the two resellers are. Having to navigate the HP web site to find = = > this info is bound to be a daunting expedition worthy of an Indianna = = > Jones motion picture. -- = Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 00:50:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Howard Siegel Subject: Re: VT200 emulation under Mac OS X Message-ID: vmsmangler@earthlink.net writes: > terminal emulator supported VT100 and VT200. It does indeed support > VT100 but I have never been able to get it to support VT200. Long ago (Mac System 7.1 days), I used to use VersaTerm by Synergy Software. As I remember, it had pretty faithfull VT100 and VT220 emulations. - h -- hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> LHT <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom! ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 22:39:58 -0500 From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: VT200 emulation under Mac OS X Message-ID: In article , Howard Siegel writes: > vmsmangler@earthlink.net writes: >> terminal emulator supported VT100 and VT200. It does indeed support >> VT100 but I have never been able to get it to support VT200. > > Long ago (Mac System 7.1 days), I used to use VersaTerm by Synergy > Software. As I remember, it had pretty faithfull VT100 and VT220 > emulations. Reflection II for Macintosh works fine for me on MacOS 9, but the problem is for those people who buy new Macintoshes and are forced to use MacOS X. ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.265 ************************