INFO-VAX Wed, 08 Oct 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 543 Contents: Re: Decnet Over IP (Phase V question). Re: Decnet Over IP (Phase V question). Re: Elvis is dead - get over it! Macro compiler error on Itanium Martin Fink Web to host Blades web cast on WEDNESDAY Status of DECUS Canada ? Re: Trying to contact the Hoff (and I dont mean Hasselhoff) Re: VMS news reader Re: VMS news reader Re: VMS news reader Re: VMS news reader ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:28:58 -0700 (PDT) From: BaxterD@tessco.com Subject: Re: Decnet Over IP (Phase V question). Message-ID: On Oct 7, 1:17=A0pm, "Colin Butcher" wrote: > Using "127.0.0.1" as the local IP name BIND resolver is not an > "undocumented" solution in that you can enter whatever you like as the DN= S > nameserver. I'm just surprised that it's not the standard recommendation, > because it's so easy and flexible in terms of setting up the name service > lookup precedence order once you've jumped sideways into the IP stack. > > So, put "127.0.0.1" in as the name server, then set up the list of DNS na= me > servers you wish to use in your IP stack in the usual manner. That way yo= u > get the HOSTS file first, followed by whatever name servers you choose to > use. Means you don't have to go back to your DECnet configuration if you > ever change your name servers. Easy. > > You should make consistent naming changes everywhere. In practice a > destination node will accept inbound DECnet-over-IP connections without > having all the naming in place, but you'll see "back translate" failures > from the naming service until you have the naming consistent. > > You'll also need to flush the naming caches everywhere too. NCL> FLUSH > SESSION CONTROL NAMING CACHE ENTRY "*" is what you need. > > Don't forget to enable the PWIP driver and allow ports 102 and 399 throug= h > the firewalls. You can also control which IP subnets you accept inbound > connections from if you're on a recent version (can't remember which righ= t > now) - look at the NCL help for the rfc 1006 and rfc 1006-plus (aka rfc > 1869) OSI transport templates. > > -- > Cheers, Colin. > Legacy =3D Stuff that works properly! Thanks Colin, One more question before I try this out. Just for testing purposes, I would like to stop the NAME_Service under TCPIP services. If I have all of my test nodes defined in the local host table, will this definition (i.e. 127.0.0.1) still work??? Or do I need the name service running to be able to query the local table. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:36:53 GMT From: "Colin Butcher" Subject: Re: Decnet Over IP (Phase V question). Message-ID: <9wRGk.68572$E41.1960@text.news.virginmedia.com> Haven't tried it myself, so I don't know. Why would you want to stop the NAME service? There's only one way to find out for real... -- Cheers, Colin. Legacy = Stuff that works properly! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:04:39 -0700 (PDT) From: PR Subject: Re: Elvis is dead - get over it! Message-ID: <871eaafc-2d55-41cd-82c2-cd1f9882ba57@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com> On Oct 5, 4:53=A0am, "Richard Maher" wrote: > Hi Michael, > > > Then why do you bother with VMS at all? > > 'cos it's the best server on the planet you fucking idiot! > > If only the incompetent, self-serving, vms-appologists at HP would open t= he > flood-gates and let the users *INTEGRATE* their VMS apps with this > feature-rich, cheap, ubiquitous, full-function client platform(s) then ma= ybe > we might get somewhere? > > Regards Richard Maher > > "Michael Kraemer" wrote in message > > news:gc9spk$1lc$00$1@news.t-online.com... > > > Richard Maher schrieb: > > > > Personally, I love FireFox and Firebug! I love Flex (and FlexBuilder)= ! I > > > love .NET (a bit less)! Silverlight is getting better! I love Java > Applets! > > > (and the new 1.6_10 jnlp deployment options) I love Chrome's Applicat= ion > > > Launch shortcuts! I love HTML/DOM/Javascript! I love the price of > laptops, > > > PCs and Macs! I have no problem with Windows! *And so do the users!* > > > Then why do you bother with VMS at all? Amen brother 0 thou do preach to the choir! I've said it before and I will say it yet again, from a dead zero start, I've put in five VMS installations in a little less than a year, including the time to convert the darn software, spec out RX26xx servers, install em, and even - get this - *get paid!* If 100 more people would get out there and evangelize VMS, a whole hell of a lot of GOOD things would happen. It is a GREAT server, and affordable. Now if they would just hurry up with 8.4 so I could run the thing in an Integrity Virtual Machine, boy would I ever be a happy duck! -Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:06:17 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Macro compiler error on Itanium Message-ID: <00A80C40.9F03122D@SendSpamHere.ORG> Has anybody here ever seen one of these errors from the Macro compiler on Itanium? Code cell integrity check: Operand literal value out of range: COD INSTRUCTION adds : NEXT=02010770, PREV=01F0CA28, LOCATOR={15155:0-22}, SCOPE=SOME_ROUTINE, MUST_WRITE, IS_DEBUG_PROLOG, UDB=?ACCVIO: 00004070?, OPCODE=4, INSTRUCTION_SLOT=2, OP1=pr0, OP2=r12, OP3=#-8208, OP4=r12; for operand 2 Assertion failure: Compiler internal error - please submit problem report %GEM-F-ASSERTION, Compiler internal error - please submit problem report %MMK-F-ERRUPD, error status %X19DB800C occurred when updating target OBJ$:SOME_PROGRAM.OBJ I'm sending a report to John Reagan but curious if there's already some know fix/workaround for this. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright notice, disclaimer and quotations. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Subject: Martin Fink Web to host Blades web cast on WEDNESDAY Message-ID: Dear Folks, Please be aware that Martin Fink'S call is on WEDNESDAY the 8th of October not Friday the 10th. This is a customer presentation hosted by Connect which is HP's Users organization. You are welcome to attend as are your customers. Registration details are attached. Sue Skonetski Mission Critical Servers =AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD___= ________________________ Dear Distribution list, Please sign up as soon as possible for the Martin Fink web cast scheduled for this Wednesday. The topic is "Blades in a Mission Critical Computing Environment" . This is the first part of a multi month series. Please feel free to distribute and post as you see fit. Warm Regards as always, Sue Invitation and instructions ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ After a successful and popular web cast in 2007, Martin Fink will once again present to the Connect Community on =93Blades in a Mission Critical Computing Environment=94. Join us on Wednesday 8 October 2008 at 11:00 a.m. CDT as Martin looks at the overall value of blades to a business. A BladeSystem is an infrastructure in a box proven to save time, power and money in data centers large and small. HP's overall blade strategy and portfolio will be highlighted. Find out more information at: http://www.connect-community.org/Events/Webcasts/MartinFink= Webcast/tabid/180/Default.aspx Registration Register for this Webcast using the following instructions: 1) Click on 'First Time Users Click Here To Register' 2) Please use hpconnect as your signup password 3) Complete the demographic information and create a User ID and password for yourself; it is important that you remember this information as you will need it when you log into the Website for the Webcast. 4) Once you have created your ID and Password, you will be directed to the Webcast registration tool, 5) Select =91Course Catalog=92 and click on the Martin Fink Blades Webcast 6) At the bottom of the screen, select the webcast and then click =91sign up for course=92 Webcast Description Blades are hot! Blades are being adopted by business at phenomenal rates; blades are one of the hottest areas in IT infrastructures. Now we are seeing the next step in blades: the move towards mission critical computing. In this webinar, we will look at the overall value of blades to a business. A BladeSystem is an infrastructure in a box proven to save time, power and money in data centers large and small. HP's overall blade strategy and portfolio will be highlighted. From there, we will examine the advantages of transitioning a mission critical environment to HP BladeSystem. HP holds the #1 market share position for EPIC/RISC blades and we will illustrate how customers are successfully deploying a bladed infrastructure for their mission critical solutions. This webinar will set the stage for a series of six sessions over the next six months that dives deeper into how HP Integrity blades are ideal for mission critical computing. During this period we will look at running HP-UX and OpenVMS on Integrity blades as well as take a deeper dive into the recent Integrity NonStop BladeSystem announcement. _____________________________________________ BARBARA O'CONNOR Connect - Your Independent HP Business Technology Community T: 312.673.5744 F: 312.673.4609 Visit us online at www.connect-community.org. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:21:30 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Status of DECUS Canada ? Message-ID: <48ebe202$0$12411$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Does anyone have any information on the status of the user group formerly known as Decus Canada ? I have not received anything from them in quite some time. Does anyone have AnneM's new email address since she moved back to Toronto ? I heard that the USA group formerly known as DECUS USA seems to have been folded into the main Interex group and gotten yet another new name. Has the same happened in Canada and the new group simply doesn't care about its Decus constituency ? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: DaveG Subject: Re: Trying to contact the Hoff (and I dont mean Hasselhoff) Message-ID: On Oct 7, 12:25=A0pm, Baxt...@tessco.com wrote: > Hoff, > =A0 =A0 =A0 Went to your site (HoffmanLabs.org) and hit the "Contact Us" > button. =A0 Unfortunately, there is no contact information there. > Can you send me some contact info by e-mail? =A0(see my profile) > > Dave If you complete the "Contact Us" portion on Hoff's site, he'll get back to you, usually quickly. He doesn't spend a whole lot of time here anymore. I think he misplaced his foil hat. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 20:50:48 +0000 (UTC) From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: VMS news reader Message-ID: In article <9aa8e7f9-dac2-4b17-b765-90f229f45f84@u46g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, H Vlems writes: > What newsreader would you recommend for Alpha/VMS V8.3? NEWSRDR. Works on VAX as well. :-) > Right now I use either Outlook Express or Google Groups. The first > refuses to update comp.sys.dec and the latter tends to add funny > strings, to the point that the message is unreadable. Agreed. > Last week I received the KZPCM-DX controllers and added more storage > to my Digital Server 5305 (7 * 9 GB). > I read comp.os.vms, comp.sys.dec, alt.sys.pdp10 and pdp11. A retain > period of 3 months is sufficient I guess. > So what amount of storage would you recommend and what tool? Is this related to the newsreader? Or are you running your own news server? Or do you want to save all the articles locally? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:17:50 -0700 (PDT) From: H Vlems Subject: Re: VMS news reader Message-ID: On 7 okt, 22:50, hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig--- remove CLOTHES to reply) wrote: > In article > <9aa8e7f9-dac2-4b17-b765-90f229f45...@u46g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, H > > Vlems writes: > > What newsreader would you recommend for Alpha/VMS V8.3? > > NEWSRDR. =A0Works on VAX as well. =A0:-) > > > Right now I use either Outlook Express or Google Groups. The first > > refuses to update comp.sys.dec and the latter tends to add funny > > strings, to the point that the message is unreadable. > > Agreed. > > > Last week I received the KZPCM-DX controllers and added more storage > > to my Digital Server 5305 (7 * 9 GB). > > I read comp.os.vms, comp.sys.dec, alt.sys.pdp10 and pdp11. A retain > > period of 3 months is sufficient I guess. > > So what amount of storage would you recommend and what tool? > > Is this related to the newsreader? =A0Or are you running your own news > server? =A0Or do you want to save all the articles locally? Hi Phillip, yes, the storage question is because I wanted to keep messages for a certain amount of time. I"ve looked at NEWSRDR but have problems making it run. I get this: $ news NEWSRDR V4.9-2 Copyright =A9 1993-1998, MadGoat Software. All Rights Reserved. %NEWS-I-NOOPNPROF, could not open NEWS profile -RMS-E-FNF, file not found Any ideays? Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:11:22 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: VMS news reader Message-ID: <48ebdfa1$0$12363$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> H Vlems wrote: > yes, the storage question is because I wanted to keep messages for a > certain amount of time. News CLIENTS tend to keep posts for the lesser of: local config profile, OR: the server's retention period. So of the server has a retention period of 1 month, I am not sure that you can still access posts older than that which are still cached on your local client. As other have said, Mozilla provides the original Netscape news client with it. When you download it from the HP web site, it comes with a very nice installation package that includes all the middleware needed to make it run. It is very memory hungry, and you want to give yourself some inordinate amount of PGFILQUOTA like 1 gig. Also, some newsgroups with very long names may not work under VMS when the software tries to create its own files. (comp.os.vms is nowhere near the limit, but some newsgroup names are extremely long (like the one about the hamster and ducttape) The newsreader portion of Mozilla handles text posts fine. It does lack ability to reconstitute multipart binaries as well as some more recent encoding formats (like yenc), and no work was done to when they moved from Mozilla to Thunderbird. Be careful however to never use Mozilla with any privileges. If you do this, Mozilla will delete/overwrite some of the config files in SYS$SYSTEM. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:16:36 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: VMS news reader Message-ID: <00A80C31.4CBA46D7@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article , H Vlems writes: >On 7 okt, 22:50, hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig--- >remove CLOTHES to reply) wrote: >> In article >> <9aa8e7f9-dac2-4b17-b765-90f229f45...@u46g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, H >> >> Vlems writes: >> > What newsreader would you recommend for Alpha/VMS V8.3? >> >> NEWSRDR. =A0Works on VAX as well. =A0:-) >> >> > Right now I use either Outlook Express or Google Groups. The first >> > refuses to update comp.sys.dec and the latter tends to add funny >> > strings, to the point that the message is unreadable. >> >> Agreed. >> >> > Last week I received the KZPCM-DX controllers and added more storage >> > to my Digital Server 5305 (7 * 9 GB). >> > I read comp.os.vms, comp.sys.dec, alt.sys.pdp10 and pdp11. A retain >> > period of 3 months is sufficient I guess. >> > So what amount of storage would you recommend and what tool? >> >> Is this related to the newsreader? =A0Or are you running your own news >> server? =A0Or do you want to save all the articles locally? > >Hi Phillip, >yes, the storage question is because I wanted to keep messages for a >certain amount of time. >I"ve looked at NEWSRDR but have problems making it run. >I get this: >$ news >NEWSRDR V4.9-2 >Copyright =A9 1993-1998, MadGoat Software. All Rights Reserved. >%NEWS-I-NOOPNPROF, could not open NEWS profile >-RMS-E-FNF, file not found > >Any ideays? >Hans That file, NEWSRDR_PROFILE.NRPF, is created in your login directory and it maintains your user profile info (name, sig info, etc.). Either you have one there and it's corrupt or NEWSRDR has some issue with writing to your login directory. If you have privies, try "$ SET FILE WATCH/CLASS=MAJOR" and then run NEWSRDR to see what error is generated when it accesses your login directory or the NEWSRDR_PROFILE.NRPF file. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. 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