INFO-VAX Sat, 07 Apr 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 192 Contents: Re: OT: Global Warming Re: Ping Sue Re: SYSBOOT.EXE not found with MOP boot ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 7 Apr 2007 04:38:18 -0700 From: "n.rieck@sympatico.ca" Subject: Re: OT: Global Warming Message-ID: <1175945898.363545.251080@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> On Apr 6, 8:20 pm, "Tom Linden" wrote: > On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:33:03 -0700, JF Mezei > [...snip...] > >> Today, the IPCC is releasing a report on climate change. >> It should be available on its website shortly; > >> http://www.ipcc.ch/ > [...snip...] > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4340135300469846467&q=the+gre... > I've said this before but feel it necessary to say it again: The information age, which really surged forward in 1995 with the popularity of the web, has provided more good information as well as much more bad information. The final effect is that the signal-to- noise ratio is already in free-fall. Consider the following: paper-based books are very expensive to manufacture and market so publishing companies (the investors) hire experts to check facts (if publishing a text book), spelling and grammar, the author's credentials, and so on. Unless the publisher was very rich and didn't care about return on investment (I'm thinking L. Ron Hubbard) most printed publications had a pretty good signal-to- noise ratio. Now along comes the web and publishing costs almost drop to zero. There is no need to check facts, or author's credentials. Heck, most of the content is "here today and gone tomorrow" so they've got to invent new technologies like blogging to support the crud. Other technologies like grammar and spell checking allow some authors to appear to be educated but the final result is something of a farce. Low cost publishing places the burdon upon us, the consumers, to check the credentials of the content providers. ### With regards to the "Anti-Global Warming" video, I watched it for a few minutes and wrote down the names of the first two experts. I then stopped the video to Google the names and here is what I discovered: 1) Tim Ball of the University of Winnipeg (Canada) http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/personfactsheet.php?id=1164 If the above web site is correct (it may contain noise too) this guy is working for the petroleum industry. 2) Nir Shaviv of the University of Jerusalem Associate Professor of Physics Racah Institute of Physics The Hebrew University of Jerusalem http://www.phys.huji.ac.il/~shaviv/ a) This "astrophysicist" is not an expert in climatology b) He appears to be attempting to become a full professor ("publish or perish" but it doesn't matter if the information is 100% factual as long as the author AND the university are cited) ### So I implore you, my OpenVMS brothers and sisters, to be very skeptical of all web-based content, including messages from me. Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/openvms_demos.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 10:38:11 -0500 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: Ping Sue Message-ID: <4617BAE3.ABD282FD@spam.comcast.net> Sue wrote: > > On Apr 5, 5:55 am, Doc wrote: > > "Sue" wrote innews:1175723758.978986.276700@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2:27 pm, Doc wrote: > > >> "Sue" wrote > > >> innews:1175613703.166034.155030@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: > > > > >> > On Apr 2, 11:29 pm, "Sue" wrote: > > >> >> On Apr 2, 4:17 pm, Doc wrote: > > > > >> >> > This is not related to OpenVMS, but to HP. I have a potential > > >> >> > problem with a partner of HP and I'd like to know who I complain > > >> >> > to. > > > > >> >> > The partner is Redcorp SA/NV, a Belgium-based company. The part > > >> >> > I was looking to get is a power cable for an HP laptop, a part > > >> >> > that is designed so that HP can suck money out of you (said > > >> >> > cable cost me over 30 Euros so far and I don't have it). > > > > >> >> > My first attempt to purchase this cable from Redcorp was using > > >> >> > my status as a self employed person - they won't sell to the > > >> >> > general public. In order to use payment by credit card I was > > >> >> > required to fax or email a copy of my identity card and credit > > >> >> > card to them. This I found not too acceptable, and my attempt to > > >> >> > buy was thwarted because they wanted a copy of the *back* of the > > >> >> > credit card as well. This is unacceptable, they should get a > > >> >> > proper merchant's account and process credit cards online. > > > > >> >> > Second I attempted to order the cable via the company of my > > >> >> > partner and I. I placed the order and was requested to make a > > >> >> > wire payment with a specific reference. I did so, and expected > > >> >> > the goods. Now, having chased this up, their delivery company > > >> >> > claims to have delivered this stupid cable on the 16th of last > > >> >> > month. I even have a copy of the delivery receipt. > > > > >> >> > Problem is, the signature isn't mine, and the name box looks > > >> >> > like it was filled in by a four year old - i.e. it is illegible. > > > > >> >> > If I don't get a satisfactory resolution to this who in HP do I > > >> >> > complain to about how their partners treat customers? > > > > >> >> > Doc. > > > > >> >> I have seen this and will forward to some folks I know in Europe > > >> >> please send me your contact information. > > >> >> Thanks, > > >> >>Sue- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > > >> > Dear Doc, > > > > >> > I have heard back from my contacts in Europe and they REALLY want > > >> > to resolve this but they need your contact information, can you > > >> > please send it to me at my HP email. > > > > >> Sorry to post two followups, but I think I should highlight that > > >> there's two problems here. > > > > >> One is the part that has gone missing, and Redcorp are dealing with > > >> this. > > > > >> The second - and one I find objectionable - is the requirement for a > > >> copy of both sides of a credit card. > > > > >>Sue, I appreciate you taking this seriously even though I'm using a > > >> pseudonym and it's only a low-value part. > > > > >> Doc.- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > Dear Doc, > > > > > I want to let the newsgroup know that we (HP) are taking this > > > seriously and let the entire newsgroup know that the folks in Europe > > > did get back to "Doc" . Doc sent me his contact information via > > > email. > > > > > It is important to know that while I do try and look at the newsgroup > > > and check for issues to make sure my friends are ok. No one from HP > > > that responds to this newsgroup (not sure about others) is usually > > > doing so during office hours, nor do they get measured on responding > > > to newsgroups. What I am trying to say is that this may not always be > > > the most effective way of taking care of a problem. Sometimes it > > > works, I wish there were a better answer. > > > > Sue, thanks for forwarding this on, I've been contacted by Daniel who was > > one of the people you emailed. > > > > I've explained that I'm giving Redcorp time to deal with their shipping > > company and find out where my delivery really went, but that I'd like to > > complain about asking for a copy of my ID and credit card. > > > > The main thing - and I think you probably understand this - is it's > > frustrating that it is for such a small part, a power cable. I lost one > > doing a setup for a client, and it was a package of an HP laptop and > > docking station (with other bits and pieces) that was around 3,500 Euro. > > > > The client is delighted with the system he's got (one of the top-end HP > > laptops that's widescreen and has a numeric keypad), but he's having to > > use the UK plug and an adaptor for the docking station. > > > > Doc.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > I am glad that your customer is happy with the system and that you > managed a work around. And I do understand the frustration a power > cable even though its small is a major part to a system. > > Thank you for taking the time to work with the customer and us and not > just complain, action always takes more effort. I don't know as anyone will "just complain". Most gripes follow failed attempts to get satisfaction/correction through prescribed channels. -- David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems http://www.djesys.com/ Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 10:35:30 -0500 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: SYSBOOT.EXE not found with MOP boot Message-ID: <4617BA42.F3E818E6@spam.comcast.net> Hans Bachner wrote: > > Jonathan Casiot wrote: > > > > Just had another go at fixing this... > > > > renamed syscommon.dir in DISK$ALPHASYS:[SYS10] to uppercase, > > SYSCOMMON.DIR, and now vms2 boots! > > Now that you mention this - been there, but too long ago to remember it off > the top of my head. > > At least for V7.3-* you had to $ SET PROCESSS /PARSE=TRADITIONAL before > invoking cluster_config.com. $ SET PROCESSS/PARSE=TRADITIONAL ...is still the default, is it not? Does either SYLOGIN.COM or LOGIN.COM change the parse style? -- David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems http://www.djesys.com/ Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.192 ************************