INFO-VAX Tue, 02 Jan 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 3 Contents: Re: Formatting an IDE drive ? Summmary: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Re: vmware VMS ISO ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 12:47:20 -0600 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: Formatting an IDE drive ? Message-ID: <45995738.11802A7@spam.comcast.net> JF Mezei wrote: > > David J Dachtera wrote: > > Exactly what kind of "format" do you believe is necessary? > > If the low-level format is intact (is it?), what more do you need? > > How do I know a low level format is intact ? When you get a drive from > another place, I've always done a low level format to make sure I start off > with a clean sheet and known bad blocks. $ INIT/ERASE will write/read every sector on the device which causes those drives supporting it to revector any (new/remaining) bad blocks. > And while the disks I have seem to be OK, I would have prefered to do a low > level format on them just to be sure. > > Also, knowing how to do a low level format is useful for when you really do > need it. As I understand it, VMS's approach has always been to leave the minutiae to someone else - just "give me" a "perfect" medium and "I'll do the rest". This seems to be at least part of the reason why HP-branded (S)DLT drives report fewer errors than those with "generic" OEM firmware which simply reports otherwise recoverable media errors and expects the host o.s. to handle them. So, we do the low-level format "on the test bench" and bring the medium to VMS when it has been found acceptable. At least, that's my understanding of VMS's philosophy. -- David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems http://www.djesys.com/ Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 13:29:04 -0800 From: Ken Fairfield Subject: Summmary: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers Message-ID: <4vtcoqF1bfvalU1@mid.individual.net> First, a BIG thanks to all who replied, especially John Santos, JF Mezei and Jeff Campbell. Various of your comments and hints put me on the right track. :-) To restate the problem, I was in a Catch 22 situation with not being able to query or setup my Linksys BEFRSR41 Cable/DSL Router because I didn't have a browser on my PWS 600au (VMS 7.3-1 and TCPIP Services V5.3-ECO-2). In addition, the manuals that come with the Linksys don't talk about the router's default settings. (I didn't think to go to www.linksys.com when I was on another system to see if they had more detailed information...) In the end, I did the following: 1) On the "virgin" VMS system, I did @TCPIP$STARTUP and let it configure DHCP on EWA0/WE0. It also configures Telnet and SMTP. Having done so, I could do TCPIP SHOW INTER/FULL and see the IP address, network and broadcast masks. In addition, doing a TCPIP SHOW NAME and see the IP addresses of the DNS servers for my internet provider. 2) I did @TCPIP$SHUTDOWN, then DELETE SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP*.DAT; to remove all the configuration files. I also removed the TCPIP$TELNET and TCPIP$SMTP accounts and their directories, etc., just to have a "clean" system again. 3) Finally, and now knowing the IP addresses and masks to use, I did @TCPIP$CONFIG. I went through all five options under the "Core environment" section: Domain: I made up a domain like JF suggested. Interfaces: I did a "manual" configuration of the primary address and masks, using 192.168.1.50 since I'd already confirmed that the router is at 192.168.1.1 and it defaults to DHCP addresses starting at 192.168.1.100. Routing: I took the default answer of NO for ROUTED and GATED, and supplied the router's address, 192.168.1.1, as the default route. BIND: I supplied the IP addresses of my provider's name servers (and I think I also needed to supply my made-up domain again. Timezone: This is/was already configured so the configuration procedure just writes some messages and exits. Under the "Client components" section, I enabled Telnet and FTP, which also enables the respective Servers. Having done this basic configuration, doing @TCPIP$STARTUP got me working and able to resolve names. :-) I.e., I could then "ftp ftp.itrc.hp.com" for example. A few comments: 1) I had to configure EWA0_MODE at the console to Auto-Negotiate (or whatever the text is...I don't have it in front of me). I tried all four of the other settings, but the PWS wouldn't talk to the Linksys unless negotiation was turned on and successful. 2) Related to (1), on a reboot, auto-negotiation doesn't always succeed. I have somewhat better luck booting from a powered-off state, but about 25% of the time, it fails and I have to reboot. I think I saw some mention of this in a different thread on DHCP... 3) For reasons not relevant here, my system was at (fully patched) VMS 7.3-1. Therefore, even though I was able to ftp the CSWB kit, I couldn't install it (deep sigh...). I spent some time going down the road of installing Mosaic, but the kit I pulled from FREEWARE70 also required V7.3-2 or better... Yet another reason to keep our systems reasonably up to date. Thanks again, Ken -- Ken & Ann Fairfield Who: Ken dot and dot Ann Where: Gmail dot Com ------------------------------ Date: 2 Jan 2007 01:32:25 GMT From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Message-ID: <4vtr19F1cj5bkU1@mid.individual.net> In article <45994666.8290CDCF@spam.comcast.net>, David J Dachtera writes: > Bill Gunshannon wrote: >> >> In article <459807A6.EF027BAC@spam.comcast.net>, >> David J Dachtera writes: >> > Bill Gunshannon wrote: >> >> >> >> In article <459783d4$1@news.langstoeger.at>, >> >> peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes: >> >> > In article , JF Mezei writes: >> >> >>http://www.fcw.com/article97178-12-22-06-Web >> >> >>## >> >> >>Due to an increased network threat condition, the Defense Department is >> >> >>blocking all HTML-based e-mail messages and has banned the use of Outlook >> >> >>Web Access e-mail applications, according to a spokesman for the Joint Task >> >> >>Force for Global Network Operations. >> >> >>## >> >> > >> >> > Better late than never. I banned them (and MIME mails) some years ago >> >> > (though I run my mail on VMS and don't fear virii/worms)... >> >> > >> >> > "Text mails only here. No HTML or binaries needed for proper communications..." >> >> >> >> What do you do when someone needs to send a Word document to someone else >> >> at a remote location (inbound or outbound)? The Business Woirld still >> >> runs on MS Office, like it or not. >> > >> > Word documents can also carry malware. Likely to be banned also, sometime soon. >> >> Highly unlikely. Attempts by others to supplant MS Word have, up to this >> point, proved unsuccessful. > > In theory, and admittedly arguably, it already has been supplanted by mandate of > multiple federal laws in some privacy-sensitive industries. > Boy would I like to see those laws. "Unfair restraint of trade" comes immediately to mind. >> > Text documents will suffice in the vast majority of cases. >> >> Not in the real world. Good enough doesn't cut it when someone higher >> than you says, "The corporate standard is MS Word." > > ...until the(ir next) multi-billion-dollar outage due to malware. Then, the > higher-ups face turn-over while the workers bees burn the midnight oil to clean > up the mess. You know, people here keep saying this and yet the business world shows no sign of changing and, in fact, has yet to blame MS Software for any of these highly publicized fiascos. > >> > >> > The world did not begin with M$ - it will not stop without it, either. >> >> Nice thought, but not grounded in reality. > > Damn, Bill, do you hear yourself? > > Think for a moment: What was your desktop "computing" environment prior to, oh, > 1985? ...or even Windows V3.x? (Hint #1: What famous software was touted to be > as easy as __, __, __? (Fill in the blank yourself.) Hint #2: It wasn't M$, but > did run on IBM/M$-DOS.) > > ...prior to 1975? > > Starting to regain your perspective now? Not talking about 1985 or 1975. We are talking about now. MS has the world locked and there is no sign this is going to change anytime soon, no matter what some of us would like. (Hint, the machine I am using right now is not running any MS products.) > >> Even given the alternatives >> I have seen no move to eliminate MS Word from places where it counts. >> Like businesses and schools (who are busy creating yet another generation >> that will know only one way to do business.) > > ...until corporate America demands downtime reductions through the non-use of > M$, or modified methods of using it. The day is coming, perhaps sooner than > anyone wants to admit. And where exactly do you see evidence to support the above claim? Corporate America has yet to blame MS software for anything and is still happily in love with it. The honeymoon is far from over. Given that there are currently alternatives that are easier to install, more functional and more efficient you would think MS would already be on the down swing. Reality is that they are not. > >> DA uses MS products extensively. There has, so far, been no expressed >> desire to even consider an alternative like OpenOffice. > > Desires seldom withstand legislation and/or executive orders. Can you say "Unfair restraint of trade"? I knew you could. :-) bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 2007 17:46:43 -0800 From: "AEF" Subject: Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Message-ID: <1167702403.257723.287320@h40g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Arne Vajh=F8j wrote: > David J Dachtera wrote: > > Bill Gunshannon wrote: > >> Not in the real world. Good enough doesn't cut it when someone higher > >> than you says, "The corporate standard is MS Word." > > > > ...until the(ir next) multi-billion-dollar outage due to malware. Then,= the > > higher-ups face turn-over while the workers bees burn the midnight oil = to clean > > up the mess. > > There were some real bad incidents 3-5 years ago. > > No move from Windows then. > > Now the MIS departments has tightened security. You mean like requiring 6-character passwords to now be "complex"? Yeah, that'll stop 'em!!! ;-) OK, maybe they're actually doing some more useful things. [=2E..] AEF ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:55:34 -0800 From: bob@instantwhip.com Subject: Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Message-ID: <1167706534.363290.116950@k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Bill Gunshannon wrote: > > What do you do when someone needs to send a Word document to someone else > at a remote location (inbound or outbound)? The Business Woirld still > runs on MS Office, like it or not. not all the business world ... we still use WORD 11, and wordperfect and some other packages still run on vms ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 15:26:56 -0600 From: pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) Subject: Re: vmware VMS ISO ? Message-ID: In article <4599552E.CE54DCFB@spam.comcast.net>, David J Dachtera wrote: >Your newsreader must have copied the lines out of order. The correct order is as >per the dashes (that is, VMware is *NOT* an application: it does not *NOT* run >under Windows, Windows runs inside a VMware "virtual machine"). > >Hardware >- VMware >-- Windows (or Linux-x86, or *BSD-x86, or ...) >--- VAX or Alpha emulator >---- VMS(, BSD, Linux, ...) >-- >David J Dachtera >dba DJE Systems >http://www.djesys.com/ > >Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page >http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ > >Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: >http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ > >Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: >http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ > >Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: >http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ Actually, here (since I'm running in my house and don't want to pay for the VMware commercial server products... Linux x86 (or Windows) >--Simh >--- VMS(, Net/4.x.BSD) or when I'm really crazy... Linux x86 (or Windows) >- VMware Server >-- Windows >---Simh >---- VMS(, Net/4.x.BSD) I did run the VAX OpenVMS under Windows under VMware once... Sick idea. Does VMware's commercial server boot on raw unmodified hardware without drivers and such? How much better is VMware at the top level performance wise... vs. Linux or Windows. Bill -- -- "When I think back on all the crap I learned in Vax school It's a wonder I fixed anything at all." (to the tune of Kodachrome) pechter-at-ureach.com ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.003 ************************